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TheJackal

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I'm in my 1st league ever.....APA handicapped. Tomorrow we're supposed to play at a smaller barlike venue. I was told (have never been there) one of the 2 tables we're going to use is near the wall. If I remember correctly, and there's been no rule changes, if you 'break' your stick, you are conceding the game/match.
My question is....if I need a shorter stick to use by the wall, can I 'break' my break cue to use for that shot?
 
TheJackal said:
I'm in my 1st league ever.....APA handicapped. Tomorrow we're supposed to play at a smaller barlike venue. I was told (have never been there) one of the 2 tables we're going to use is near the wall. If I remember correctly, and there's been no rule changes, if you 'break' your stick, you are conceding the game/match.
My question is....if I need a shorter stick to use by the wall, can I 'break' my break cue to use for that shot?
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You can break your cue down without conceding if you communicate a legitimate reason for it prior to doing it, such as changing a shaft.

The only real rule you may run afoul of is the 40” cue minimum length rule - in which case you could fashion some sort of 11” extension for your shaft from an old butt or a piece of PVC that slips over it snugly.
 
Good question and good looking out.

I would try and get there early.
If it's that prevalent, they may have some short stick house cues already there.
 
Iwishiwasrich said:
Your team captain should know or be able to find out for you. Do you have a rule book?
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I'm not aware of any local rule, or rulebook, only the national book that I can get online. Of course my team captain is out of town on business this week.
DeadStick said:
You can break your cue down without conceding if you communicate a legitimate reason for it prior to doing it, such as changing a shaft.

The only real rule you may run afoul of is the 40” cue minimum length rule - in which case you could fashion some sort of 11” extension for your shaft from an old butt or a piece of PVC that slips over it snugly.
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I use a Players JB5 jump/break cue, so breaking it down to the jump length puts it at just over 41"
 
TheJackal said:
I use a Players JB5 jump/break cue, so breaking it down to the jump length puts it at just over 41"
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Regardless of all the other answers, it's never a concession to break down a jump break cue into the jump component. That's part of what they are designed for…
 
TheJackal said:
I'm not aware of any local rule, or rulebook, only the national book that I can get online. Of course my team captain is out of town on business this week.

I use a Players JB5 jump/break cue, so breaking it down to the jump length puts it at just over 41"
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There ya go. Just don’t stray too far from center-ball if your tip is super hard or smooth… which may be tough if the CB is on or near the rail.
 
TheJackal said:
I'm in my 1st league ever.....APA handicapped. Tomorrow we're supposed to play at a smaller barlike venue. I was told (have never been there) one of the 2 tables we're going to use is near the wall. If I remember correctly, and there's been no rule changes, if you 'break' your stick, you are conceding the game/match.
My question is....if I need a shorter stick to use by the wall, can I 'break' my break cue to use for that shot?
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Ask the people in your league. Many bars also have a shorty cue for restricted spaces. Part of the reason I don't play in a traveling league anymore, sick of having to play in crap places with crap tables with sometimes weirdo drugged out regulars.

In addition, the breaking down of a cue being a concession is based on the situation. If you let your opponent know what you are doing, and it's clear you are not quitting, there are 0 issues. And a break/jump cue is made to be taken apart anyway so the concession of the game is not even a question there.
 
In the national rules (that you already said you have access to), the only mention of breaking down your cue is under jump shots. Jump shots are legal when executed with a normal playing cue, but breaking that cue down to jump is not. It is not, nor was it ever, concession of game. If you do it during your opponent's turn and within his/her field of vision, it can be seen as a shark move and a sportsmanship violation. Now check your local bylaws to see if they say anything. They can't make it a concession though, as that would change game rules. We're not allowed to change game rules in the bylaws.
 
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