Rule ?

fish on

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using Low draw CB went airborne:eek: landed on a piece of master chalk which was on top of rail then CB returned to table and knocked in object ball ?
I called BIH on myself last night in the bar league
What is rule on this?:confused:
 
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fish on said:
using Low draw CB went airborne:eek: landed on a piece of master chalk which was on top of rail then CB returned to table and knocked in object ball ?
I called BIH on myself last night in the bar league
What is rule on this?:confused:

Technically, it is a cue ball foul because you actually hit the felt/table with your tip and scooped the CB up.
It should be BIH for the other player.

But in a bar league......you should consult the official bar rules.
Depending on which bar you're at, it may be allowed.

Unless, there is an official world standardized Bar Rules & Regulations Manual that I don't know about..?...
 
Neil said:
It all depends on your leagues rules. But in other rules, it is a foul. It's a foul because you hit the chalk. You are allowed to miscue, and you are allowed to have the CB leave the table and return on it's own. In this case, it didn't return on it's own.

Thanks for reply :thumbup:
I know it sounded made up but it happened to me and I agree with your answer.
I did not intentionally scoop the ball but have a bad problem with draw shots close to OB not following through!

Maybe there is no real answer to this as the usual suspects posting here have refused to clarify this rule!
thx again
 
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fish on said:
Thanks for reply :thumbup:
I know it sounded made up but it happened to me and I agree with your answer.
I did not intentionally scoop the ball but have a bad problem with draw shots close to OB not following through!

Maybe there is no real answer to this as the usual suspects posting here have refused to clarify this rule!
thx again

The stroke itself could have been a foul....but maybe not. An unintentional "Scoop" shot becomes a foul if/when the cue ball touches the ferrule or shaft (As it usually does and you can usually hear it) The clear foul in this scenario is when the cue ball contacted the chalk.

The chalk, not being part of the rail is considered a foreign object....therefore it's a foul

Here are the BCAPL References:

Jump shots are legal shots. However, it is a foul to intentionally cause the cue ball to rise off the bed of the table by "digging under" or "scooping" the cue ball with the cue stick

Any ball that comes to rest other than on the bed of the table after a stroke; any ball that comes to rest on the bed of the table after striking an object that is not part of the table (chalk, light fixture, player, floor, etc.). Balls that leave the bed of the table and return there without touching anything that is not part of the table are not jumped balls.
 
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