I like these rules, they aren't mine, but an APA League.
What do you think?
What do you think?
Rules for an APA league
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The APA caters to amateur players. We should be thankful for them. If it wasn't for the players in the APA , as well as all those that progressed beyond the APA over the years, there wouldn't be many people to market all the great new products to that keep this niche sport alive.
Your post says nothing about liking or disliking the rules.
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I'm sure that's not an APA rule but a house rule.
Seems to be a set of rules highlights for a local tournament. Probably based on what the LO/TD has had trouble with before. "Handicaps are updated between each round" sounds like "we will be watching for sandbaggers".
Those are all pretty standard rules for the APA league and tournaments where I play.
A lot may seem kinda weird, but you have to remember that the APA is a business that involves playing pool, not a pool league that someone is trying to organize. The food thing is because if a location doesn't make any money as a result of letting the pool league use their facility, then no reason to have all those people using the facility, and subsequently one less location for the league operator to use for his business. If you put the business aspect as the top priority, then a lot of the rules make more sense.
A lot may seem kinda weird, but you have to remember that the APA is a business that involves playing pool, not a pool league that someone is trying to organize. The food thing is because if a location doesn't make any money as a result of letting the pool league use their facility, then no reason to have all those people using the facility, and subsequently one less location for the league operator to use for his business. If you put the business aspect as the top priority, then a lot of the rules make more sense.
As others have stated, these are pretty common tournament rules. Most of them are standard, regularAPA league rules. The food/drink rule is specific to that room, not an actual league rule.
To clarify the second rule that is highlighted in yellow in the OP, some players play on multiple teams in different divisions. When it comes to end of session tournaments to advance towards the Vegas qualifier, teams from all the area divisions that qualify play in these tournaments to advance. If a player is on multiple teams in the tournament, and those teams have to face each other, the National rules state that the player can choose to play for one team or the other. This particular LO is cutting to the chase and not even allowing it to be an issue, and not allowing that player to play for either team, nor to be involved in the match in any way (time-outs, matchups, etc).
The two "senior level" player rule means that you can't field a team of three SL6's or above, at a time. Used to only apply to 9-ball, but now also applies to 8-ball as well.
To clarify the second rule that is highlighted in yellow in the OP, some players play on multiple teams in different divisions. When it comes to end of session tournaments to advance towards the Vegas qualifier, teams from all the area divisions that qualify play in these tournaments to advance. If a player is on multiple teams in the tournament, and those teams have to face each other, the National rules state that the player can choose to play for one team or the other. This particular LO is cutting to the chase and not even allowing it to be an issue, and not allowing that player to play for either team, nor to be involved in the match in any way (time-outs, matchups, etc).
The two "senior level" player rule means that you can't field a team of three SL6's or above, at a time. Used to only apply to 9-ball, but now also applies to 8-ball as well.
Personal opinion, in 8-ball the senior player rule should apply to SL-7's only and not SL-6's. The limits in APA (in theory) are that there is practically no limit to how good an SL-7 can be and no limit to how bad an SL-2 can be, so this is what needs to be addressed. Anywhere between SL-3 and SL-6 should be covered by the handicap. (Reference: there are several 700+ Fargo rated SL-7's playing APA).
A team of 7/7/4/3/2, where both 7's are Fargo 675+ players is still legal within this rule, and is more deadly than a lineup of 6/6/6/3/2 where the 6's are Fargo 480-ish players.
JAT
It sort of is, but it includes honest movement too. It just means matches will be scored in the computer and skill levels recalculated between rounds. Another thing that helps prevent "sticker shock" by informing ahead of time.
I agree with you about strength of lineup. In fact, in terms of strength, I would prefer a limit of one 7/9. The 3 seniors rule is really so the non-seniors are proportionately represented in the lineup (the APA doesn't want 60% of the matches to be played by 20% of the membership), rather than to limit strength of lineup.
About moving the ball with ball in hand, I have no idea how the opponent does not pick up the ball and hand it to the other player every single time to avoid this issue. Why do so many players have to ask "is it ball in hand?" when the other person walks away from the table. It's rude and annoying IMHO. If you foul, wait till the ball stops, pick up the cueball yourself.
Nothing about marking 8 ball pocket
Ha ha ha.... Good one. Or with any accuracy whatsoever.
I've been playing APA 15 years now, and they've always entered the results and updated between rounds in tournaments like the one described here. And more than once I've seen a team have a player whose Skill Level went up and no one on the team noticed it on the sheet for the next round, until it was too late. Big stinks made, despite the LO telling the captains in the Captains meeting before the tourney starts to check your sheets before the match.
(And yes, I've seen players Skill Levels go down between rounds, too)
That is why the LO in this particular example is making a note of it for everyone to see, before the tourney starts...
Maybe they weren't doing it where you play, but it's been standard operating practice here for at least 15 years.
My guess is that because marking the 8 is standard APA stuff, it's not mentioned on this LO's pre-tourney sheet.
Up until a very short time ago, the team that we played last night could have taken advantage of there not being that "2 Senior Players Only" rule... Their SL1 recently went up to SL2, if she was still SL1 they could have fielded 7 7 6 2 1 . And this team also has a 9 on it, as well...tho without the 1, he doesn't play much these days. (They still have another SL2 and an SL3, and an SL4, so the math can work. Its crazy for them when one of the lower SL players can't make it on a given night)
You are correct; there is no hcp adjustment during league matches. We don’t have league tournaments here either. You win your session playoff and go to the city tournament with a chance to go to Vegas. That’s all APA is here.
I would think your LO enters matches between rounds at your City Tournament, tho...
We have a Tri Cup tourney here after each session, with the playoff teams from each division facing off to qualify teams to compete at our State Tourney (equivalent to your City tournament). Our LO enters between rounds at this tourney as well as States. And they do in Vegas, too...
Does that mean a team might be 22 total SL going into a tourney and turn into a 24 during the event?