rules question

[Snapshot9]

But

picking up the cue ball IS NOT okay when it is trapped by other balls, and if, in him hitting the cue ball he will move 1 or more object balls that would go in your favor.

In other words, by hitting with the tip, it moves an object ball and frees it up, where just picking up the cue ball does not free up the object ball, I WILL HALT HIM, and let him know he has to hit the cue ball with his tip because that is the rules.

 

[Cuebacca]

It's kind of an interesting situation... you want to foul by touching the CB but doing so might make a shot for the opponent... I know one tactic is to place the tip a hair below the CB and gently lift the stick, I think it's called a lift-brush foul. Anyway efren did it in a straight pool match against someone a long time ago, and the player complained that it constituted an intentional foul cuz he was hitting with the ferrule rather than the tip. He wanted efren to bite 16 points rather than just 1. I think the ref ruled in efren's favor and the score ended up something like 150-0. Anyway I like Bob's idea better... come down vertically and there's no chance of screwing up the position.

I guess it'd also be a good general habit in non-tricky situations to gently roll the CB towards your opponent rather than pick it up and hand it to him.

I have a question, which I think falls under the general topic being discussed... when executing the foul described, the vertical cue foul, doesn't the cueball become momentarily trapped between the tip and the slate for a time period longer than that of a normal shot?

I understand that this has been established to be a legitimate means of intentionally fouling, but does that imply that other types of bad hits are also legitimate ways to foul?

For example, say, in 8-ball, I have balls tied up with his and know I won't get a good hit. His only open stripe is frozen to the rail near the corner, and the cueball is frozen to the stripe such that both balls lie along a straight line 90 degrees to the cushion. I decide to give him ball in hand by making his stripe using a push shot where the tip is trapping the cueball and stripe against the rail, and a little English walks the stripe into the pocket.

Another example is intentionally double-hitting the cueball to drive it through a cluster that I want to break up in 8-ball or 1-pocket. Would these two examples be acceptable based on the precedence set by the vertical cue foul? Or could these shots be deemed unsportsmanlike conduct because they use prolonged/repeated contact with the cueball to intentionally change the layout of the table?

 

[Bob Jewett]

... I think it's called a lift-brush foul. Anyway efren did it in a straight pool match against someone a long time ago, and the player complained that it constituted an intentional foul cuz he was hitting with the ferrule rather than the tip. ...

I'm pretty sure you are referring to Efren's match with Dallas West in the 2000 US Open at the Roseland Ballroom in NYC. If so, I believe that Efren took a foul not with his tip, but rather with the side of his stick. It is absolutely forbidden by the rules to shoot with the side of your stick. Or your hand. Or your shoe. You have to shoot with the tip of your cue stick. That's the only way the game is permitted to be played.

 

[Bob Jewett]

... Another example is intentionally double-hitting the cueball to drive it through a cluster that I want to break up in 8-ball or 1-pocket. ...

I believe that the rules of one pocket that are on the onepocket.org site specifically forbid intentional double hits.