Rules, Rules, Rules......
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El-ahrairah
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I don't think so.
Okay, there must be a story here......
Joey,
Many years ago, a guy from Buffalo used to come to Rochester to play my friend Ron "Julio" Casanzio some one hole. Always wanted to be a "nice" guy and replaced a ball made in an unused pocket to the spot. Also wanted to bring the cue ball up after he scratched. Didn't learn till much later he sweated profusely. Once he touched the balls, if you didn't check them first, they were "wet" and skid and slid when hit. My first lesson on the "inside" of gambling at pool. Is this another "if you snooze, you lose" things?
Lyn
Many years ago, a guy from Buffalo used to come to Rochester to play my friend Ron "Julio" Casanzio some one hole. Always wanted to be a "nice" guy and replaced a ball made in an unused pocket to the spot. Also wanted to bring the cue ball up after he scratched. Didn't learn till much later he sweated profusely. Once he touched the balls, if you didn't check them first, they were "wet" and skid and slid when hit. My first lesson on the "inside" of gambling at pool. Is this another "if you snooze, you lose" things?
Lyn
Hey Kid,
that is why Ronnie Wiseman always wipe the cue ball off if his opponent hands it to him after a scratch. I always go and get the cue myself if I am playing. Very good point.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
The opponent? The opponent who scratched or the one waiting to play?
It's not clear to me what the question is.
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Ive seen the example and played the example of Earl and Ralph.
If your opponent isnt watching the table, they kind of lose out to the play. Im not advocating putting it back on the table, also placing it in the chalk cube is bad form in my opinion. I think if the opponent is paying attention, sees the ball go into the pocket and walks toward the pocket, they should get it. However if they are at the foot of the table, you are at the head and scratch at the head, its courtesy to hand it back to the opponent.
In either case, I wouldnt be offended one bit if they motioned to leave it or wipe it off after its handed to them.
If I was playing for a big win, I would wipe it off if I felt some weird liquid or dampness to the ball. If it was a friendly game, I wouldnt worry so much.
If your opponent isnt watching the table, they kind of lose out to the play. Im not advocating putting it back on the table, also placing it in the chalk cube is bad form in my opinion. I think if the opponent is paying attention, sees the ball go into the pocket and walks toward the pocket, they should get it. However if they are at the foot of the table, you are at the head and scratch at the head, its courtesy to hand it back to the opponent.
In either case, I wouldnt be offended one bit if they motioned to leave it or wipe it off after its handed to them.
If I was playing for a big win, I would wipe it off if I felt some weird liquid or dampness to the ball. If it was a friendly game, I wouldnt worry so much.
So there you have it....
OK, just got back from the pool room. Here's the story.
Two guys are playing nine ball for MEGA BUCKS, 8 ahead. Score is Player A up 5 games ahead. Player B has to leave the table and does so, while the other guy is running out. Player A (the guy running out) runs a couple of balls while Player B is away from the table. Before B gets back, Player A scratches leaving an easy 6, 7, 8 & 9 on the table. Player A goes and gets the cue ball and places it on the table in a position where the six ball is not an easy shot. Player B returns to the table and sees the medium difficult shot. Player A says nothing to Player B and allows Player B to shoot the medium difficult shot. Player B shoots, misses and hangs up the 6 ball, leaving an even easier out for the 6, 7, 8, & 9.
If the cue ball had been left where it lay after the shot, Player B would of course realize that Player A had scratched. This was on a ball return table FWIW but it wouldn't make any difference if it was a leather pocketed table.
Of coure, we have all heard the unwritten rule, "If you snooze, you lose".
Does it matter if you are betting thousands of dollars per set or just playing in a tournament or even plaing for small stakes?
Do you tell your opponent when he returns to the table that you scratched while he went to the bar, his car, the cigarette machine, the coke machine, the bathroom or wherever?
Sometimes, you just have to go and can't wait for your opponent to finish his run.
What if you were betting on the side with Player B. Do you tell him that the other guy scratched when you see he is getting ready to shoot the 6 ball from where it lays?
What if the guy is a nice guy and gambles good with everyone? Does that make a difference to you as a spectator?
What about it? Do you stick your nose in other people's business? (For me, I typically don't).
What if you are Player A, do you knowingly let Player B shoot the 6 ball from where YOU placed the cue ball, without telling him that you scratched when he left the table?
OK, just got back from the pool room. Here's the story.
Two guys are playing nine ball for MEGA BUCKS, 8 ahead. Score is Player A up 5 games ahead. Player B has to leave the table and does so, while the other guy is running out. Player A (the guy running out) runs a couple of balls while Player B is away from the table. Before B gets back, Player A scratches leaving an easy 6, 7, 8 & 9 on the table. Player A goes and gets the cue ball and places it on the table in a position where the six ball is not an easy shot. Player B returns to the table and sees the medium difficult shot. Player A says nothing to Player B and allows Player B to shoot the medium difficult shot. Player B shoots, misses and hangs up the 6 ball, leaving an even easier out for the 6, 7, 8, & 9.
If the cue ball had been left where it lay after the shot, Player B would of course realize that Player A had scratched. This was on a ball return table FWIW but it wouldn't make any difference if it was a leather pocketed table.
Of coure, we have all heard the unwritten rule, "If you snooze, you lose".
Does it matter if you are betting thousands of dollars per set or just playing in a tournament or even plaing for small stakes?
Do you tell your opponent when he returns to the table that you scratched while he went to the bar, his car, the cigarette machine, the coke machine, the bathroom or wherever?
Sometimes, you just have to go and can't wait for your opponent to finish his run.
What if you were betting on the side with Player B. Do you tell him that the other guy scratched when you see he is getting ready to shoot the 6 ball from where it lays?
What if the guy is a nice guy and gambles good with everyone? Does that make a difference to you as a spectator?
What about it? Do you stick your nose in other people's business? (For me, I typically don't).
What if you are Player A, do you knowingly let Player B shoot the 6 ball from where YOU placed the cue ball, without telling him that you scratched when he left the table?
1 Word comes to mind - Sportsmanship.
I'm afraid it's things like this that give pool a bad name.
I played a guy the other day who i had on 2 fouls, i told him he was on 2, he then went to shoot the 4 ball (he was hooked on the 3) to tie balls up, i told him as he was hitting it your on 2, he then realized and kicked at the 3 hitting the ball.
I didn't have to tell him again he was on 2 when he was shooting the 4 ball, i just did it because i was brought up like that playing snooker. I have called fouls on myself and even done it in Wichita playing the other week, when no one seen me foul.
I have seen this thing done before but stayed out of it, as it wasn't my game, but i won't forget the guy who done it and now don't trust him as far as i could throw him.
Where I live, you can carry a weapon...even concealed if you have a permit...even into a saloon if YOU are not drinking.
'Nuff said?????????????
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