Saggy Olhausen

[CamposCues]

Let me preface this by letting you know I'm not a mechanic. I have put up several table but I've not run into this.

My buddy wanted help setting up an 8' Olhausen. I leveled the frame. Luckily his floor is as level as I've ever come across. Anyway, Once the slates were on it, the frame appears to be sagging in the middle pretty bad. It is high on both ends and I would have to shim the the middle slate up I'd say a very strong 1/8" on both sides and then of course the other two slates to match it to get the table level. Is that normal? Any way around it? Thanks in advance.

 

[LCCS]

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Pictures would be nice. I would add support to the frame with a hard wood. Or disassemble the frame and rebuild it. You can shim, but it may sag more over time.

 

[Club Billiards]

Let me preface this by letting you know I'm not a mechanic. I have put up several table but I've not run into this.

My buddy wanted help setting up an 8' Olhausen. I leveled the frame. Luckily his floor is as level as I've ever come across. Anyway, Once the slates were on it, the frame appears to be sagging in the middle pretty bad. It is high on both ends and I would have to shim the the middle slate up I'd say a very strong 1/8" on both sides and then of course the other two slates to match it to get the table level. Is that normal? Any way around it? Thanks in advance.

1/8" is fairly normal. I would shim it up as necessary. I've seen much worse tables in terms of sagging the middle. I had one Golden West that the center had sagged a full inch! I wouldn't do much modification to the frame. Not much you can do to it to make it stronger in the middle.

A dealer here in Dayton has an Olhausen in the showroom with 20 some pieces of slate stacked in the middle of it. It's been that way for a few years now and it hasn't sagged any more than yours.

 

[CamposCues]

1/8" is fairly normal. I would shim it up as necessary. I've seen much worse tables in terms of sagging the middle. I had one Golden West that the center had sagged a full inch! I wouldn't do much modification to the frame. Not much you can do to it to make it stronger in the middle.

A dealer here in Dayton has an Olhausen in the showroom with 20 some pieces of slate stacked in the middle of it. It's been that way for a few years now and it hasn't sagged any more than yours.

Okay, thanks Josh. I just didn't know if it was cool to have the entire middle slate suspended on shims that high. I've only done a few 3 piece slate tables and it was usually a few playing cards here and there.

 

[sausage]

if the table still sags, you can always add two more legs.

 

[Club Billiards]

Okay, thanks Josh. I just didn't know if it was cool to have the entire middle slate suspended on shims that high. I've only done a few 3 piece slate tables and it was usually a few playing cards here and there.

Of course your other option is to take a jack and a 2x4 to span the width of the frame, jack it up in the middle and let nature reverse the process over the next couple years.

 

[CamposCues]

Of course your other option is to take a jack and a 2x4 to span the width of the frame, jack it up in the middle and let nature reverse the process over the next couple years.

That's what I told my buddy. I asked him how long it would take his 3 year old to knock the kick stand out from under his table:wink: I suspect not long.

 

[LCCS]

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Of course your other option is to take a jack and a 2x4 to span the width of the frame, jack it up in the middle and let nature reverse the process over the next couple years.

I would not use pine.You will be in the same boat later down the road. I would do it with a hardwood or angle iron.
Ron

 

[Club Billiards]

I would not use pine.You will be in the same boat later down the road. I would do it with a hardwood or angle iron.
Ron

I was just joking about the 2x4. Picture me under the table holding a 2x4 across the width of the table because my arms won't reach. Benching the middle of the table so the thing is in the air. Now replace me in that mental image with a car jack and leave it there for a couple years. I thought it was funny anyway.

But seriously, the sag he's talking about is in the center of the table from end to end, not on the ends of the frame like with the Gold Crowns. The whole center of the table sags slightly because the weight is better supported on the ends where the legs are. I've seen some Kassons and Golden Wests and several other brands that have sagged an easy 1/2 inch and some a whole inch! For the fix you're talking about, you'd have to run angle iron the entire length of the table on the sides.

 

[LCCS]

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I was just joking about the 2x4. Picture me under the table holding a 2x4 across the width of the table because my arms won't reach. Benching the middle of the table so the thing is in the air. Now replace me in that mental image with a car jack and leave it there for a couple years. I thought it was funny anyway.

But seriously, the sag he's talking about is in the center of the table from end to end, not on the ends of the frame like with the Gold Crowns. The whole center of the table sags slightly because the weight is better supported on the ends where the legs are. I've seen some Kassons and Golden Wests and several other brands that have sagged an easy 1/2 inch and some a whole inch! For the fix you're talking about, you'd have to run angle iron the entire length of the table on the sides.

We all have are opinions and i see what you are talking about, now. No harm. I was just saying if he really wanted it fixed, that is what i would do.
Thanks, Ron

 

[tableman]

wedges

I'm an Olhausen dealer and a mechanic. 1/8" is really not that much at all. I would just use the normal wood wedges and level it up as normal. It is kinda unusual for an Olhausen to sag even that much. Must be an older Olhausen? Maybe even a laminate table? I'll be happy to send you a few wedges to use if you want to contact me. Good luck