Sardo racking devices

berlowmj

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1. Are they worth considering & if so, under what circumstances?

2. Apparently, there are several variations. Clarification?
 
Home table, new cloth, done correctly the Sardo 5000 works reasonably well. As for taking it with you to play somewhere else, waste of time.
 
I have one.

It does not really do what it says unless the spot where you place the 1 ball is flat and the cloth is new.

Otherwise most of the time is does not really make all the balls stick together. Oh and clean balls is important.

But on the other hand it does keep all the balls in place not like normal wooden rack where sometime the ball will just move slightly out of place slightly when you remove the rack.

I think it is quite good still and very cheap. It also saves my back as sometime i keep trying to rack and rack and rack but the bloody darn balls just won't stay still and it is killing my back.

so for me all in all i felt it was worth it.
 
35€ here in belgium for this device.

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perfect rack EACH and every time, no need for a triangle, and 1/20th of the cost of a sardo. what some poolhalls over here do is, tap a 9ball on one side of the table and 8ball on the other side
 
The Sardo 5000 costs about $60 which is right around 45 euros isn't it? It's not too much of a price difference and it works great on home tables.
 
SILVER__WOMBAT said:
dont waste your money...teach your self to rack well
On a home table after racking over and over again you get divets in a table. Whether you mean to or not, they just happen over time. Then you spend more time racking trying to get the balls to stick together on the spot.

The sardo fixes this. You will still get those normal divets but the sardo has you putting the rack in the same exact spot every time thanks to the arrows on the side of the rack, so less time is actually used racking. Plus you are getting a nice tight rack in the same spot every time.

The sardo is great for home use. It's the only rack I use at home because I want to spend less time trying to give myself a good rack and more time shooting/practicing. Along the lines of taking it to a poolhall it would defeat the purpose. The rack has to be setup for the table, 2 small barely noticable dots are put on the table on the sides of the rack where the arrows are. If the table has divets already in it then the Sardo rack would be useless until the table is actually broken in to use it.

Its great for home to start using on new cloth and continue using as the cloth gets older. If you start using it on older cloth it will take a little while for the table to get used to it but you will be fine in the long run. But taking it to strange tables all the time is not gonna work.

I use the M5000 at home. Great rack and does what it is supposed to.

Silver Wombat,

Have you actually used a Sardo tight rack before?
 
Solartje Which website has that info been taken from cos I am very interested in getting a decent rack for playing 9 ball.
 
Icon of Sin said:
On a home table after racking over and over again you get divets in a table. Whether you mean to or not, they just happen over time. Then you spend more time racking trying to get the balls to stick together on the spot.

The sardo fixes this. You will still get those normal divets but the sardo has you putting the rack in the same exact spot every time thanks to the arrows on the side of the rack, so less time is actually used racking. Plus you are getting a nice tight rack in the same spot every time.

The sardo is great for home use. It's the only rack I use at home because I want to spend less time trying to give myself a good rack and more time shooting/practicing. Along the lines of taking it to a poolhall it would defeat the purpose. The rack has to be setup for the table, 2 small barely noticable dots are put on the table on the sides of the rack where the arrows are. If the table has divets already in it then the Sardo rack would be useless until the table is actually broken in to use it.

Its great for home to start using on new cloth and continue using as the cloth gets older. If you start using it on older cloth it will take a little while for the table to get used to it but you will be fine in the long run. But taking it to strange tables all the time is not gonna work.

I use the M5000 at home. Great rack and does what it is supposed to.

Silver Wombat,

Have you actually used a Sardo tight rack before?


now i havent, i am just say this on what i have learned when i was talking to a guy that sells these, from what he said is its great for racking 8 ball at home but 9 ball is to much of a hassel and its not worth taking to the poolhall...i was just stating my opinion, besides learning to rack well without a tight rack is a vital part of becoming a good pool player...there might not always be a sardo rack for you to use...what do you do then.
 
SILVER__WOMBAT said:
now i havent, i am just say this on what i have learned when i was talking to a guy that sells these, from what he said is its great for racking 8 ball at home but 9 ball is to much of a hassel and its not worth taking to the poolhall...i was just stating my opinion, besides learning to rack well without a tight rack is a vital part of becoming a good pool player...there might not always be a sardo rack for you to use...what do you do then.
Just because I use the Sardo at home does not imply I do not know how to rack well. I shoot at the poolhall and on league just as much, if not more then I do when I am at home. Sardo is ideal for your home table if you are sick of trying to give yourself a good rack all the time. At home when practicing, win or lose, you still have to rack. If you want to minimalize your time behind the rack and maximize you time playing the a sardo is the way to go at home for ALL GAMES

Its no hassel for 9-ball. I hardly ever shoot 8-ball at home. I hardly ever shoot 8-ball period. I really cant see why it would be a hassel more for one game then the other.
 
It's great for any game, 8 ball 9 ball 10 ball anything, on a home table with little to no use on the cloth to start with. It keeps them in perfect position so that from then on you can just put them in the rack, put the rack on the dots, and move it forward. You don't even have to press it after the first or second time.

It's already been said, but here it is again:
It's great for home tables but useless if you take it to a pool hall since they already have little dips in the cloth that are usually not in the right place. New cloth=get a sardo. Pool hall=use what they have. There might not always be a sardo, but it works wonders when you have it in the right conditions.
 
Icon of Sin said:
Just because I use the Sardo at home does not imply I do not know how to rack well. I shoot at the poolhall and on league just as much, if not more then I do when I am at home. Sardo is ideal for your home table if you are sick of trying to give yourself a good rack all the time. At home when practicing, win or lose, you still have to rack. If you want to minimalize your time behind the rack and maximize you time playing the a sardo is the way to go at home for ALL GAMES

Its no hassel for 9-ball. I hardly ever shoot 8-ball at home. I hardly ever shoot 8-ball period. I really cant see why it would be a hassel more for one game then the other.


im sorry if you though i was trying to say that you didnt know how to rack, i was just saying that if all someone used was this it could limit the racking abilities.


P.S.i think your a good player and i like your youtube videos:D
 
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SILVER__WOMBAT said:
im sorry if you though i was trying to say that you didnt know how to rack, i was just saying that if all someone used was this it could limit the racking abilities.


P.S.i think your a good player and i like you youtube videos:D
Thanks bud :D

Sorry I took it that way.
 
Icon of Sin said:
Just because I use the Sardo at home does not imply I do not know how to rack well. I shoot at the poolhall and on league just as much, if not more then I do when I am at home. Sardo is ideal for your home table if you are sick of trying to give yourself a good rack all the time. At home when practicing, win or lose, you still have to rack. If you want to minimalize your time behind the rack and maximize you time playing the a sardo is the way to go at home for ALL GAMES

Its no hassel for 9-ball. I hardly ever shoot 8-ball at home. I hardly ever shoot 8-ball period. I really cant see why it would be a hassel more for one game then the other.

Yes, I can vouch for that! Heath racks em pretty good. I had the pleasure of having him rack for me a few times.:D
Purdman;)

PS: Heath, I had to say it!:eek:
 
Purdman said:
Yes, I can vouch for that! Heath racks em pretty good. I had the pleasure of having him rack for me a few times.:D
Purdman;)

PS: Heath, I had to say it!:eek:
Damn it Don!!! It's OK, I knew someone was going to :D

Are you coming to Valley Forge?
 
SILVER__WOMBAT said:
sorry if im thread jacking, but has anyone used the chameleon tight rack http://www.pool-tables-cues.com/pro...ack/2510/1/1?gclid=CJry74nIrooCFQ30JAodpS0suQ
it looks more useful then the sardo
Not going to lie to you on this.

Last year at Valley Forge the Pros where using the Chamleon in the pro event. They were doing whatever they could to get a tight rack with it, including racking with it upside down and using the hands instead of using the rack at all.

They really didnt seem to like.

My father and I gave it a test run at their booth and after rack and pushing that rear bar up, the balls would just come loose again. I think the advantage with the sardo isnt really it locking the balls in place, its more the advantage of the marks on the side of the rack the allow you to put the rack in the same exact spot every time. This way when the table forms the divets, the balls will always rest in them instead of constantly roll off because you arealways racking in a slightly different spot.

Now when I played a rack of 9-ball against Stefano Pelinga at a local demo he was doing, he was sponsored by Chameleon and he used the rack and he seemed to have gotten a great rack with it. But the table was just recovered right before he came in for the demo to, he could have gotten a rack that tight with a normal rack.

Just my 2 cents from experience with it.
 
Icon of Sin said:
Not going to lie to you on this.

Last year at Valley Forge the Pros where using the Chamleon in the pro event. They were doing whatever they could to get a tight rack with it, including racking with it upside down and using the hands instead of using the rack at all.

They really didnt seem to like.

My father and I gave it a test run at their booth and after rack and pushing that rear bar up, the balls would just come loose again. I think the advantage with the sardo isnt really it locking the balls in place, its more the advantage of the marks on the side of the rack the allow you to put the rack in the same exact spot every time. This way when the table forms the divets, the balls will always rest in them instead of constantly roll off because you arealways racking in a slightly different spot.

Now when I played a rack of 9-ball against Stefano Pelinga at a local demo he was doing, he was sponsored by Chameleon and he used the rack and he seemed to have gotten a great rack with it. But the table was just recovered right before he came in for the demo to, he could have gotten a rack that tight with a normal rack.

Just my 2 cents from experience with it.

ok thx....i remember the vid of you playing stefano, congrats on having that opportunity
 
I also don't intend to hijack this thread, but I have a follow-up question related to this...

I was thinking about making an outline of a quality wood rack on the cloth for straight pool purposes. If I do this on new cloth, can I get the same results out of a nice wood rack as I could with a Sardo? Anyone try this approach?
 
I can't see why that wouldn't work, but it might be more difficult to have them all touching unless you slightly tap every single ball before removing the rack. It's much easier and practical with the sardo, which is probably why they sell so well. It's just more convenient :)
 
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