The first eight words he wrote…then went on to state that it was different than other shafts the same age.
Sold Schon 1994-95 Shaft w/ Rare, Gold Ring; Dark, Tight-Grained Maple; 4.2 oz., Full 13.01 mm!
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The first eight words he wrote…then went on to state that it was different than other shafts the same age.
Dude
Find someone that knows more about Schons than myself.
Dude
Find someone that knows more about Schons than myself.
Hello Steve (stevelomako), Mark (Hungarian), Jay (Jayman), and to all other AZB members that commented on my Schon shaft, and the wording in my description.
I never meant to create a firestorm, or see AZB members get hostile with one another. I am extremely thorough in all my listing descriptions, whether here or on eBay. I've been a member here since 2010, ond on eBay since 2000. I have considerable knowledge of billiards cues and flat-top guitars. I've been a working professional guitarist for nearly 45 years, having started in my teen years.
While certainly not an expert on Schon cues, I feel confident in saying this Schon shaft does not have the typical silver ring found on 99.5% or more, of all Schon shafts. I stand by my accessment that this ring, rather, has the appearance of a gold-tone, whether brass, or nickel silver with a high copper content?, as some have mentioned. Moreover, my knowledge of vintage guitar finishes tells me this is NOT due to finish that has aged, but is inherent, or original, to the way the shaft was made. And it's likely from either a custom order, or a limited-edition model, of which few examples exist. In short, I believe it's an odditiy that most members here--perhaps excluding Jay, or Mark (2002 Schon shaft, with gold ring--have simply never seen before.
Finally, all components of the shaft are original, and consistent (perhaps a better word than "cogruity," in my opinion) with a vintage, Schon shaft that is, at the very least, 30 years-old! The weave of the phenolic joint collar can clearly be seen, compared to subsequent Schon's, and the way the ferrule's linen-based melamine material has aged. It literally has the appearance of antique ivory, until looked at very closely.
I will update with any findings, and I know several people to contact for some definitive answers, yet haven't had a chance to reach out to them yet. "Life is very short, and there's no time for fussing and fighting, my friend" Lennon/McCartney
Happy shooting!
--Glen (strum4u)
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Thanks for the post. Can you explain with a little detail what you meant with the use of the word "congruity" That's what seemed to trigger our bad behavior. LOL My apologies.
Also, I see "congruity" gone from the OP but it didn't update the day and time stamp? Weird.
Anyway, very nice shaft, hope you sell soon.
Thanks for the post. Can you explain with a little detail what you meant with the use of the word "congruity" That's what seemed to trigger our bad behavior. LOL My apologies.
Also, I see "congruity" gone from the OP but it didn't update the day and time stamp? Weird.
Anyway, very nice shaft, hope you sell soon.
Nevermind, I see you explained it.
Nevermind, I see you saw he explained it.
Hope you understand it being a Texan and all.
If not, let me know and I’ll sell you a vowel.realtor1618
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100% not a Runde era shaft. The use of the schon logo on the shaft came after Bob left. I believe it was in 94 or 95 that Evan started doing this
Yes, you're correct. I've edited my shaft's description. 1994 was the first year for the vertical, cursive-font logo, with the name "Schon," on the shaft. The umlaut's made me think the shaft may have been made before 1994-95, but they were not used on shafts during Bob Runde's tenure with the company. Looking through my saved Schon pics, I see quite a few 1993 models--both standard and Ltd. editions--w/scrolled "S" on cue's butt--accompanied by 1994 shafts, having the new logo. First, I've attached a pic of a 1993 Ltd. edition cue, with original shaft (logo on collar) and a second shaft (post-1993); Second, a Schon SP40, with both the original shaft, having the name SCHON inscribed in the collar, accompanied by a couple 1994 shafts, both having the umlauts (dots) above the letter "o." Third, a pic of a 1993 Schon with unique pin, of two offered that year. The original shaft that accompanies this cue has a shaft with the horizontal name SCHON13 (i.e, 13 mm), with "gold" ring similar in color tone to my shaft. As seen by the fine condition of the shaft, this shaft was evidently made this way, and is NOT from aged finish. Finally, an attached pic of an S-20 cue having two shafts: one has a silver ring, and the other is simlar to my shaft, though without the umlauts, and from a different era. Just some food for thought, regarding Schon cues, and shafts that had rings clearly designed as a special alternative option to the standard silver. Perhaps this usage of gold or brass toned rings was reserved for Ltd. editions (less than 12 cues), and Special series (e.g. SP, BW, etc.), or they were custom ordered by customers?
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Schon 1993 Ltd. Cue (BUTT Curled, Script S; Shaft Logo's) Well-Worn Shafts; One 1993 & One Ear...jpg -
Schon 1993 SP-40 (BUTT w-3 Shafts) One Orig. w-Letters; Two Cursive Logo On Shaft.jpg -
Schon 1993 Cue (PIN; Acme) '93 Collar-Stamped 1993 Shaft; Not Sure If Original To Cue; Scrolle...jpg -
Schon S-20 Cue (Orig. Silver ring shaft w-Micarta; Second shaft w-Gold ring) eBay; 12-28-24.jpg
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Hello,
Yes, I still have the shaft, but haven't bumped the thread. I'm aware that a new Schon shaft can be purchased for roughly the same amount of money.
But what makes this shaft special, is that it's a vintage, 30+ year-old Schon, in excellent shape. The German nickel-silver ring has a gold appearance. Finally, the shaft weighs a full 4.2 oz., and has a 13.1 mm diameter tip. Send a PM for more details, if interested. Thanks!