Lucky enough to pick up a Scruggs. Wondering how the experts identify or describe this joint. I know it's a 3/8 10 but beyond that. Also, does that tip look original? Seems like a hard tip to me. What a beautiful sound it makes.
Scruggs joint identification
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Have a wood collar cues of his (piloted 5/16 thread), spoke to Mr. Scruggs around 2013 and he recalled making a few cues with wood joint collars in the late 1990s. That's all I can offer here...
So mine is
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There it is Willie
Cool unusual Scruggs.
I don't know that there would be any reliable way to tell if the tip is original. A custom maker could put on whatever tip the customer wanted.
Even production, like Joss, if you buy it through a distributor, they often offer a variety of tips that the OEM does not offer.
Maybe if the tip wasn't well installed it could be identified as not original.
The fact that it seems hard could indicate it is old, and maybe original.
To me, tips are like tires, a wearable part. Put whatever tip you want on.
I don't know that there would be any reliable way to tell if the tip is original. A custom maker could put on whatever tip the customer wanted.
Even production, like Joss, if you buy it through a distributor, they often offer a variety of tips that the OEM does not offer.
Maybe if the tip wasn't well installed it could be identified as not original.
The fact that it seems hard could indicate it is old, and maybe original.
To me, tips are like tires, a wearable part. Put whatever tip you want on.
Nice pickup.
I would like to see a side view of the joint pin....
"kind of looks like your TS cue has an acme pin,
which , Tim used in His cues briefly.
The tip could be a hard water buffalo tip.
Thankyou for an intelligent reply. They are few on here.
Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
I am reluctant to ask but curiosity compels me. What are we to conclude? Not a Scruggs? Trademark Variation? Uncertain?
Don't like my trademark?
Well, a bill of sale from Tim Scruggs with the exact description of the cue would be great.
However, there are so many things wrong. First, when he used a 3/8 thread pin, it normally had the rounded bullet tip to it. This cue doesn't. Also, most TS logos have the little tick marks on both the T and the S. There were short periods where they weren't the case, but very short periods. I have many Scruggs cues, and all but one does not have this logo above. See above for most of them. You are aware, that Tim's logo has been copied all over Asia? Also, none of his catalogs have a wood joint pictured, though he could have done it. Also, the black accent rings on the shaft portion of the joint are thicker than the butt ring portions. Tim would never do that. The shaft facing does not look like Tim's, very rough. The bumper extends past the butt plate longer than most Scruggs cues. There are no really good pictures of the forearm, wrap, and bumper, and inside the bumper.
So much wrong for a Scruggs. However, a bill of sale with this exact description would be useful.
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Take a better picture of the joint screw, from the side
Mr. Scruggs used 3/8x10 and 3/8x10 acme
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Regular 3/8x10
Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
Not a matter of "like" or not. Wild Wood makes a cogent analysis. It just does not look right to me but I am no expert. TS is not a rare forgery. Without the bill of sale, I would get a written opinion from a recognized expert.
I will say this, it hits just as well or better than my Gilbert, barnhart, pierce, runde. Whats that say for the hit of a scruggs whether it's real or not?
Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
Since we are at this point, will you answer the following for us? Who sold you the cue? Did he id it as a Scruggs? Have you discussed this cue's authenticity? Who? When? What steps did you take prior and subsequent to your purchase? Have you contacted the seller since the purchase? How do you intend to id the cue from here on out? Show us any ad(s) associated with your purchase.
The easier path, at this point, is to seek the opinion suggested.
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