shadow aiming???

Pidge said:
...have you ever played snooker?
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Sure - we have English snooker tables even here in the colonies (I'm guessing more than the number of American pool tables you see). I think it's a great, challenging game, but a little too restrictive for my taste. I prefer the "wild wild west" of pool.

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Sure - we have English snooker tables even here in the colonies (I'm guessing more than the number of American pool tables you see). I think it's a great, challenging game, but a little too restrictive for my taste. I prefer the "wild wild west" of pool.

pj
chgo
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restrictive, in what way ?
 
In every snooker hall I've been in around the country there has been at least 1 American pool table. The game is on the up here and is producing quite a lot of talented pool players from the crop that want more money than English pool, but cant make it on the snooker or C8B tours.
 
Pidge said:
In every snooker hall I've been in around the country there has been at least 1 American pool table. The game is on the up here and is producing quite a lot of talented pool players from the crop that want more money than English pool, but cant make it on the snooker or C8B tours.
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That's definitely more often than I see snooker tables here.

pj
chgo
 
Pidge said:
Restrictive = less forgiving.
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Yes, so it's restrictive in the kinds of shots/shape that work compared with pool. For me cue ball control is the most satisfying/fun part of the game of pool (compared with pocketing), so snooker, which is much more demanding for pocketing and therefore offers less variety in position play, is less attractive. I'm not judging snooker, just stating my preference.

pj
chgo
 
bbb said:
the shadows and fractions and edges are complimentary not exclusionary
imho
icbw
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Hi Larry,

You're not wrong. They are complementary.

And...It is advantages to have as much info as is available when trying to assess a shot.

They say that one of the things that made Jack Nicklaus one of the best putters & probably one of the best clutch putters were his eyes.

His eyes were constantly moving & looking for any additional info that he could garner while assessing a putt, Then he would use all of the info that he had garnered to set up & execute a putt... including even memory from many years back.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick
 
Pidge said:
In every snooker hall I've been in around the country there has been at least 1 American pool table. The game is on the up here and is producing quite a lot of talented pool players from the crop that want more money than English pool, but cant make it on the snooker or C8B tours.
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American pool is most definitely not 'on the up'. It looked to be gaining some momentum a few years ago, but is dead as a dodo at the momo.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Yes, so it's restrictive in the kinds of shots/shape that work compared with pool. For me cue ball control is the most satisfying/fun part of the game of pool (compared with pocketing), so snooker, which is much more demanding for pocketing and therefore offers less variety in position play, is less attractive. I'm not judging snooker, just stating my preference.

pj
chgo
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..understood, but positional play is just as important, and satisfying, in snooker. Hand on the table round the pink and black spots, pink goes 4 bags, black goes 2 bags , 3 foot pots.Control the white, control the game, its as easy as poking a ball in a hole with a stick.

p.s. didn't realise you had fun, nice to hear.
 
Ron Swanson said:
American pool is most definitely not 'on the up'. It looked to be gaining some momentum a few years ago, but is dead as a dodo at the momo.
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Its is around these parts. It isn't producing worldies around here but the general public that come to knock a few balls about would rather spend £7 an hour on the American tables than £4 on the English tables. Simply because its more fun than E8B, and shoes and socks aren't a requirement at the American tables :-)
 
That's where Ben Hogan had trouble after "The Accident". His eyesight was damaged and he went from being one of the finest putters in golf to someone who stumbled a bit but refused to putt sidesaddle as it "wouldn't look right". I think he would have despised the long putter equipment...
 
Pidge said:
Its is around these parts. It isn't producing worldies around here but the general public that come to knock a few balls about would rather spend £7 an hour on the American tables than £4 on the English tables. Simply because its more fun than E8B, and shoes and socks aren't a requirement at the American tables :-)
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Whilst generally harmless and well meaning, I've come to the conclusion they are complete ****ing morons.
 
BilliardsAbout said:
That's where Ben Hogan had trouble after "The Accident". His eyesight was damaged and he went from being one of the finest putters in golf to someone who stumbled a bit but refused to putt sidesaddle as it "wouldn't look right". I think he would have despised the long putter equipment...
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I think he won a Major after that accident. There was a movie about it,
 
PoolBoy1 said:
I think he won a Major after that accident. There was a movie about it,
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http://golf.about.com/od/golfersmen/p/ben_hogan.htm

Hogan turned pro in 1929, at age 17, to play pro events in Texas. He didn't join the PGA Tour until 1932. Much of his early career, Hogan battled a hook. But through a tremendous work ethic, he changed his game to a controlled fade (in his famous words, he "dug it out of the dirt"). In 1940, he began winning, and often.

He missed a couple years on Tour due to World War II, but returned full-time in 1946 and won 13 times, including his first major, the 1946 PGA Championship. From August 1945 to February 1949, Hogan won 37 times. But in 1949, he suffered terrible injuries in a car crash, and was never again able to play a full schedule due to circulatory problems in his legs.

Sixteen months after that crash - in which Hogan threw himself across his wife to protect her as their car collided with a bus - Hogan returned to win the 1950 U.S. Open. That victory is sometimes referred to as "the miracle at Merion," because Hogan won despite severe pain and having to play 36 holes on the final day.

In fact, from 1950 on, Hogan never played more than seven PGA Tour events in a year. Yet, he won 13 more times, including six majors. Until Tiger Woods did it in 2000, Hogan was the only man to win three professional majors in one year. That was in 1953, when Hogan won the Masters, U.S. Open and British Open. (He didn't play the PGA Championship because that tournament's dates conflicted with the British Open's.) From 1946 to 1953, Hogan won nine of the 16 majors he played.

http://golf.about.com/od/golfersmen/p/ben_hogan.htm
 
A favorite story of mine--and I've written a full-length movie script about Hogan's life... thanks for sharing.

On the "holy lights" system, although a lights and shadows system can be exact--I've had the "good luck" to play in rooms with open windows where the light changes through the day or where a light fixture sways near a fan, and outside in Central America--the lights and "chiaroscuro" are too variant to be useful IMO...
 
BilliardsAbout said:
A favorite story of mine--and I've written a full-length movie script about Hogan's life... thanks for sharing.

On the "holy lights" system, although a lights and shadows system can be exact--I've had the "good luck" to play in rooms with open windows where the light changes through the day or where a light fixture sways near a fan, and outside in Central America--the lights and "chiaroscuro" are too variant to be useful IMO...
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Hey Matt,

The humidity sometimes changes by the hour in New Orleans. The slow changing of the shadows of the Sun should be easy adjustments to make.:wink:

Best2 You... & All,
Rick
 
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