Shaft Deflection

Pidge

Pidge

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Evening guys,

I'm interested in what amounts of deflection different shafts have. If anyone has links to independent tests that have been done I'd like to hear from you.

If anyone wants to post their results for their own shafts, to try and keep the results as fair as possible try this;

Aim with maximum english, centre ball with CB on 9 ball spot. Aim your tip at the short rail middle diamond and shoot with enough speed for the CB to hit short rail and bounce back to 9 ball spot (if it was shot with centre CB). Measure where CB hits short rail.

I know every shaft of the same brand is different so someones OB1 might have different results to someone elses OB1. I just want a rough guide so I can make a decission on what shaft to try out and buy next.

Regards
 
Pidge said:
Evening guys,

I'm interested in what amounts of deflection different shafts have. If anyone has links to independent tests that have been done I'd like to hear from you.

If anyone wants to post their results for their own shafts, to try and keep the results as fair as possible try this;

Aim with maximum english, centre ball with CB on 9 ball spot. Aim your tip at the short rail middle diamond and shoot with enough speed for the CB to hit short rail and bounce back to 9 ball spot (if it was shot with centre CB). Measure where CB hits short rail.

I know every shaft of the same brand is different so someones OB1 might have different results to someone elses OB1. I just want a rough guide so I can make a decission on what shaft to try out and buy next.

Regards
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Any shaft 11 to 11.75 mm tip will have the least amount of deflection. You probably know with either LD or HD shafts there will always be deflection, and you will always no matter what have to adjust your aim accordingly, especially on stun shots with english.
 
Thanks for the reply man.

I've just struggled to find any true independant tests out there. It seems every manufacturer of low deflection shafts all have "The lowest deflecting shaft ever made". Soon shafts will be so good a shot with right english will squirt the the right! Lol
 
naji said:
Any shaft 11 to 11.75 mm tip will have the least amount of deflection.
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Not necessarily. Full size shafts that are hollow (or filled with a lighter material) at the tip end are lower deflection than full size shafts that aren't modified that way. Even changing the size or type of ferrule can make a difference.

pj
chgo
 
Platinum Billiards Deflection Chart

I have the chart that used to be published on the Platinum Billiards website. It includes about 45 different shafts - not all LD. PM me and I'll send it to you. Keep in mind that it isn't very current, but I think that the lion's share of LD shafts are represented.
 
It isn't meant for a discussion about deflection. Merely a chance to post individual shaft results.

But thanks for your sarcastic comment, I REALLY appreciated it.
 
Pidge said:
It isn't meant for a discussion about deflection. Merely a chance to post individual shaft results.

But thanks for your sarcastic comment, I REALLY appreciated it.
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how much deflection a shaft has shouldn't be your decision on what shaft to get, just pick one and play with it and you'll play the same as you would with any other shaft after the adjustment period..... a 314-2 wont make you play any better than a ob1 in terms of deflection wise.


Patrick Johnson said:
There are lots of less challenging threads for you.

pj
chgo
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ill look for them, thanks.

rt
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Patrick Johnson said:
There are lots of less challenging threads for you.

pj
chgo
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Yeah, like the "OMG! I've Found My Dream Cue!" thread, followed a few days later by "WTS Dream Cue Because I Missed A Ball And Don't Know My Own Mind", and then "WTB Another Dream Cue", and "Wish I Hadn't Sold THAT One", and, and threads/posts about, er, oh yeah, LD shafts.

Fickle, rich kids. I shits 'em.
 
Here is one good post that I like

Pidge said:
Evening guys,

I'm interested in what amounts of deflection different shafts have. If anyone has links to independent tests that have been done I'd like to hear from you.

If anyone wants to post their results for their own shafts, to try and keep the results as fair as possible try this;

Aim with maximum english, centre ball with CB on 9 ball spot. Aim your tip at the short rail middle diamond and shoot with enough speed for the CB to hit short rail and bounce back to 9 ball spot (if it was shot with centre CB). Measure where CB hits short rail.

I know every shaft of the same brand is different so someones OB1 might have different results to someone elses OB1. I just want a rough guide so I can make a decission on what shaft to try out and buy next.

Regards
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I found this to be one of the best posts on SHAFT DEFLECTION.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=271319&highlight=deflection+chart&page=4
 
I told a guy tonight who was going to practice to try something
different.The poolhall has 3 different types of cueballs not including
the red dotted ones.
He's not a big believer in the LD hype,which is fine but this test made
him think.
I told him to play with his normal shaft and keep track of which
cueball he played the worst with and then put on the Predator
shaft and do the same.

The result is kinda funny but makes sense to me.He said with
his maple shaft the best pool he was playing was with the lightest
cueball and with the Predator it was the total opposite.

He found with the Predator,he played terrible with a light cueball
when it came to control and said he over-spun way to many shots
but felt great with the heavier cueball due to the shaft not
buckling on certain power-stroke shots that was happening with
the maple one.

His conclusion was that you will always have problem shots and
shots you fear no matter what shaft you play with but to find
a shaft that you can make most of your shots comfortably
and fits your style of play.
 
scsuxci said:
I told a guy tonight who was going to practice to try something
different.The poolhall has 3 different types of cueballs not including
the red dotted ones. [snip]
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I dunno man, that seems like a pretty elaborate, roundabout way to prove that A: deflection is real and B: LD shafts reduce it.

How about cue ball on the foot spot, "aim at the head spot, with no adjustment, using maximum left english and a hard hit"... mark where the cue ball hits the top rail.

"now do it with this predator/ob shaft"
...mark where the cue ball hits the top rail.
 
CreeDo said:
I dunno man, that seems like a pretty elaborate, roundabout way to prove that A: deflection is real and B: LD shafts reduce it.

How about cue ball on the foot spot, "aim at the head spot, with no adjustment, using maximum left english and a hard hit"... mark where the cue ball hits the top rail.

"now do it with this predator/ob shaft"
...mark where the cue ball hits the top rail.
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It was more to prove that a LD shaft can also screw you up as well
depending on the weight of the cue-ball.
I'll be honest with you,I can play any shot on the table with any decent
shaft LD or not but what got me with Predator was how remarkable
I could play inside English.To this day thats the only reason why
I like a Predator shaft.
Many other LD shafts I find are awful and actually make my game drop.
 
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