Shaft Forgiveness

[soyale]

It's not too hard to make a decent living, my son who is not even 22 yet is working as a bartender/manager at a pool hall 15 mins up the road from us, and due to not having to pay health insurance or rent

yes it is.

 

[Nyquil]

Good Morning Fellas, since the offering of LD shafts, 11.2 diameter tips, and other low deflection accuracy helps have rolled off the assembly lines the past 10 years or so, it seems those shafts are really critical of stroke and stroke fundamentals or they can be temperamental. I'm curious if since the LD shafts seem so demanding of exactness in fundamentals, is there a shaft design that is more forgiving of tiny stroke or fundamental flaws?

People are becoming obsessed with deflection and getting into very small diameter shafts as a result (almost Chinese 8 ball level). For me personally 12.5mm is where its at with a long pro taper. When you get into the 11's especially, yes you can see more of the cue ball, they can be lower deflection than a larger diameter counterpart, BUT due to how small your direct point of contact is with the cue ball the margin for error is more unforgiving. I really don't see the need to get into the 11's. If you have very sound fundamentals then I can understand shooting with a shaft that small in diameter. I can draw on a full 9ft table with a wood shaft if I do my part. YMMV

 

[Patrick Johnson]

When you get into the 11's especially, yes you can see more of the cue ball, they can be lower deflection than a larger diameter counterpart, BUT due to how small your direct point of contact is with the cue ball the margin for error is more unforgiving.

Can you explain how you think that happens? Your point of contact isn’t the whole tip, so how does it change size with a different tip size?

pj
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[DeeDeeCues]

I don't understand how you can believe that a narrower tip with unchanging width is significantly less consistent than a wider tip with unchanging width. The two tips may react slightly differently than each other, but they each react consistently with themselves.

And "you fancy yourself a billiards scholar"?

pj
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I don't believe anything if the sort. I absolutely think it is possible that it changes. I never said it would change significantly. I said you were making assumptions based on a significant change in size.

I refuse to dismiss possibilities without evidence. I've also cited evidence that the deflection characteristics change. If this isn't an example of a 'forgiving' characteristic, what is.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

I don't believe anything if the sort. I absolutely think it is possible that it changes. I never said it would change significantly. I said you were making assumptions based on a significant change in size.

I refuse to dismiss possibilities without evidence. I've also cited evidence that the deflection characteristics change. If this isn't an example of a 'forgiving' characteristic, what is.

It's clear we're not communicating. Thanks for trying.

pj
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