Shaft opinion

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I've been shooting with a 314-2 for about a year now, and I hate the feel of it and I don't really like shooting with it. It seems lighter than a maple shaft and has a hollow feel to it. On the other hand I've never played better. My runout and accuracy % has gone way up. Would switching to an OB Classic perform the same but give a more solid hit? Or should I just stay with the 314-2.
 
Feel or accuracy?

The less deflection, the more dead the feel. An OB classic will have a better feel, because it's a heavier shaft at the end, there's more mass...but it will have more deflection, and your accuracy will suffer, at least until you get used to it. I would suggest you get a 314 1st Generation shaft...it will have similar taper and it will react similar to the 314-2 ...but the 1st gen shafts have a much more solid hit, slightly more deflection.

I use the 314 1st gen shafts, I have a 314-2 and I absolutely can't stand it. Major difference between the 314 and 314-2. My understanding is that the 314's were made by samsara here in the states, and the 314-2's are made over seas with lower quality wood...
Maybe someone could confirm this. You'll love the hit of the 314. I have a couple extra ones I would sell if you need one, let me know what joint size u have.
 
I shoot with a Cognoscenti.

I would play with the original shaft that came with the cue.

High deflection, low deflection, no deflection is all over rated.

Just don't matter as long as you like what you have and are making balls.


A shaft is only as accurate as the player using it.
 
Try shooting with a Harder tip, it should help liven up the sound, feel, and hit of the shaft... The only thing you will have to get use to is how whitey will be traveling around the table faster.

-Drew
 
I played with a Z2 for a few years then switched to a 314-2. Like you, I shot fine with the shafts but always sort of had a nagging feeling that there might be something better out there. That's actually why I switched to the 314-2, which was a long and painful process, I kept going back and forth, and eventually I came to like it better.

Most LD shafts will be somewhat hollow feeling and have that "thud" sound - that's because they are exactly that - hollow at the tip to reduce weight. They all do it a little differently, and some can achieve a better feel than others. But to reduce deflection you need to reduce weight at the tip, period.

IMO, and OB Classic would be similar to a 314-2 as far as deflection goes, and the hit would probably be similar. I compared the Z2 and OB2 and OB Classic Pro not that long ago, and deflection was similar between the 3 at the 11.75mm size. The OB2 felt the most dampened (by design), the classic pro felt similar to the Z2. I'm sure those similarities are the same in the 12.75 size as well (314-2 vs OB1 vs OB Classic).

You could try a Mezz WD-700, I had one and it was similar to a 314-2 but definitely had a more traditional feel. I also just recently ordered a SS 360 shaft, custom made by Bob Danielson at BD Cues. I've heard good things, will post a review once I get mine. I'm hoping to get a better feel per the review but maintain a similar LD quality that I'm currently used to with my 314-2.

As someone else stated, you can also try a harder tip to offset the sponginess or duller hit. That can make a world of difference in the overall feel of the hit.

Just be careful switching. Try to borrow one and play with it for an extended period of time. Realize you may need some tweaking in order to "feel" the new deflection, even if the change is minor.

Good luck!
Scott
 
McDermott i2/i3 are cored maple shafts. i2 has a 12.75mm tip diameter and i3 has 11.75
They feel and sound more like a regular maple shaft.
Mezz WD700/WX900 also feel very much like a maple shaft.
I use a katana shaft on one of my cues. It`s a $160 shaft that plays really well and has a great feel to it.
The Lucasi shafts also feels nice.
If you check ou DZcues.com Bob makes cored maple shafts with carbon rod insert, like Mezz Hybrid II, they look really interesting, but i haven`t tried it, yet...
 
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