Sharp points???

[Kato]

Can someone here tell me a few things....
1. What IS a sharp point?
2. How can you tell a CNC point from handmade or any other way, for that matter, by looking at the cue?
3. Can comparison pictures be posted showing the differences between the two?
4. I am trying to treat myself to a new, higher end cue. I currently have Joss, Cuetec, Players and McDermott and I would like to purchase something awesome, semi-handmade but it is becoming evident I do not know what I am looking at!
Thanks

 

[7stud]

Great question.
I would really enjoy breaking it down for people. As much as I think it's important to educate people on what they are looking at, I wouldn't want Cue makers to get challenged. I edited my other post for that reason and I apologize.

The bleeding veneers have nothing to do with the points being sharp or not.
I have to stop there because I don't want to start any shit storms. Our job is hard eneogh.

Okay, let me ask you this: can bleeding veneers be fixed?

If an owner were to send a cue back to its maker asking, "How much would it cost to fix the bleeding veneers?" In your opinion, would the cuemaker charge more or less than usual? Would the cuemaker be so embarrassed that he would fix the cue for free or some nominal charge, or would the cuemaker be insulted that you found his skills lacking and charge your more?

 

[Michael Webb]

Okay, let me ask you this: can bleeding veneers be fixed?

If an owner were to send a cue back to its maker asking, "How much would it cost to fix the bleeding veneers?" In your opinion, would the cuemaker charge more or less than usual? Would the cuemaker be so embarrassed that he would fix the cue for free or some nominal charge, or would the cuemaker be insulted that you found his skills lacking and charge your more?

Your question is tough.
There are two main types that people might/would call bleeding veneers.
1st. And the easy one. From sanding such as black dust running in to white. It may be able to be sanded or cut which will make work piece smaller.. I won't and can't guarentee it will work. The best chance of removing sanding dust, is at the beginning before sealers and finish.
2nd. Bleeding from gluing them where the veneers are not cured dry. That's permanent because the bleed started at the get go.
We, (Cue makers) buy our veneers in good faith that we are paying for the best dyed veneers available.
The reality is. We are not getting what we paid for. But when the cue is completely finished. Choices are very limited.
If it's a new cue and you have issues with it. The correct place to start is with the Cue maker who made it.
2nd hand cues.
Your chances are at a minimum. If any.
I don't speak for other Cue makers. Never did and never will.

 

[Michael Webb]

Why do I take pictures???
Because seeing is believing.

Quality veneers. Hahahaha
Thankfully this person doesn't offer dyed veneers anymore. He took A LOT of money from us Cue makers.

Good example.
Notice the color change in the veneer that's pointed out. That's because they didn't sit in the dye long eneogh. It was suppose to finish a russet orange not light orange.
Cue makers could do all tuxedo cues! What fun would that be????

 

[GT819]

Here's another technique that hasn't been mentioned... Ghost points. This is a '90s cue done by the late Perry Weston. The points are sterling silver inlays with turquoise accents, as are the chain rings. As I understand, he did a series of sliver cues, (don't know how many) each one being unique. I own merry widows, half splice (CNC and sharp veneered points) and an ebony Titlist full splice conversion and this has become my over-all favorite cue.

 

[Michael Webb]

Here's another technique that hasn't been mentioned... Ghost points. This is a '90s cue done by the late Perry Weston. The points are sterling silver inlays with turquoise accents, as are the chain rings. As I understand, he did a series of sliver cues, (don't know how many) each one being unique. I own merry widows, half splice (CNC and sharp veneered points) and an ebony Titlist full splice conversion and this has become my over-all favorite cue.View attachment 594637View attachment 594638

Beautiful cue. Thank you for posting. It could have been done on a Pantogragh or CNC.
The point outlines are straight lines and the outlines in the bottom are also separate pieces, the inlays bring it all together.