Shoulder Locked In

mindtriplx

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I just realized today, that I lock my shoulder in (shooting arm) when I stroke. Is this a typical problem people have?

I know everything is supposed to be loose, I don't know where this habit came from. Any suggestions to correct it?
 
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It is making me have a sort of chicken wing. Not a lot but a little, it is making my cue angle inward.

Any suggestions on correcting this?
 
I'm also interested what the instructors have to say about this.
Myself I noticed that when I tense & lock my stroke arm shoulder, the stroke is much straigher, without any wobbles on the way...so I feel it's helping me...
 
It is making me have a sort of chicken wing. Not a lot but a little, it is making my cue angle inward.

Any suggestions on correcting this?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean about locking your shoulder in. That sounds like it should have the opposite effect of what you're describing here.

It would be better if you could include a link to you shooting.
 
I don't have a video, but I'll try to describe it better. It makes my elbow flare out and my grip hand go inward of perpendicular.

Not a lot, but enough that it is noticeable.
 
As I have always understood it, the should joint SHOULD be locked with the elbow joint loose and angled to be perpendicular to the playing surface/floor throughout the stroke. Then just close it like a hinge with a loose grip.

As the elbow is a ball joint, it has to be locked int he correct position but I think it should be locked without being tense.

I am interested in seeing instructor answers on this as well.

I wonder if the issue is stance/alignment rather than the shoulder.. if the stance is wrong then it could cascade to cause other issues, including a bad shoulder position.

That is why a video would help.
 
I don't have a video, but I'll try to describe it better. It makes my elbow flare out and my grip hand go inward of perpendicular.

Not a lot, but enough that it is noticeable.

You're probably crowding your arm with the rest of your body. It's been widely discussed on this forum. Spend some time researching stance and it's effect on your arm and you will have your answer.
 
Your elbow will only bend one way, so if you shoulder is truly locked, it should not allow your elbow to fly out. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what is happening, but... the bone between your elbow and shoulder, the humerus, is connected to your shoulder as a "ball joint", actually a ball and socket joint. Where the humerus connects to the lower arm bones, radius and ulna, it's two kind of joints. One is a rotating joint, the radius, and the other, simply put, is a hinge joint, the Ulna, and only hinges in one direction. This combination of joints in the elbow will allow you to "twist your wrist" or rotate your hand and lower arm, but the hinge joint will only "bend" in ONE direction. So, if your elbow is flying out, then your humerus HAS to be rotating (or the rotator joint in your shoulder is moving), meaning that while it may appear that your shoulder is "locked in", that may not be the case. On the other hand, I have a friends whose joints don't do what is considered "textbook". I think you could tie this girl in a knot without breaking a bone...

Anyways... go to this website and look at the joints and how they work. http://www.innerbody.com/image/skel07.html Sometimes if we know get a greater understanding of how something works, we can understand how to correct what is happening. Best I can do without seeing you or at least a video of your stroke, is guess at what's happening. Look at what Fran brought up. See if maybe your body is interfering with your stroke and causing you to have to move your elbow out to finish the stroke. Still, in order for your elbow to move out, either your humerus has to rotate or the shoulder joint has to move.

Just my take on what I'm understanding from your post... and I may be completely misunderstanding what your saying... if so, my apologies for taking up bandwidth.

Bob
 
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