Shout Outs!!! Time to say thanks to the whoever we blame for our addiction!!!

The Renfro

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At 18 I took a job at the pool hall.... I had grown up around tables my whole life and for 2 years between 11-13 Gordon's Pool hall was my after school daycare.... I think I was 12 when I ran my first rack of 8ball off the break....

At 18 I thought I could play but suddenly I wasn't on bar boxes and I was around real pool players.... I could still win playing 8ball but it was much harder... I was a shot maker.... I just shot the balls into the holes... Shape wasn't even a thought.......

I owe a shout out and a thank you to a friend of mine who has been gone for awhile... Fate Rutherford was an old man when I met him, he was also a piano player, and a close friend of Eddie Taylor...

Fate watched me playing one afternoon and I thought I had done well.. I had beaten another kid out of 20-30 bucks and felt good... Fate walked over and looked me dead in the eye and said you don't have a clue in the world about what you are doing... DO you???

He then set about teaching me to play shape and to teach me things about squirt and english and all sorts of things I didn't have a clue about... I still find myself 25 years later using something he taught me like Taylor's twist banks....

If you had to think back to the beginnings who would YOU want to give a shout out to????
 
I'd say about the age of 8, listening to one of my Grandfathers buddies tell stories about playing Mosconi, Fats, Lassiter & Murphy sparked my interest long before I ever played a game or touched a table. Ever since then I have been fascinated with the game. Most kids after school went out to "play" I went to the local arcade with a pocket full of quarters and played pool. Matter of fact at one point in middle school I was playing so much the Arcade owner agreed to match me quarter for quarter to create a fund to repair the table. If I spent a quarter on a game, he put a quarter in the jar. If I remember correctly over one summer It was nearly $300. You can say I picked up a lot of pop cans, and saved every penny I found. I can remember going to the local bank with $100 in pennies asking to exchange for quarters.
 
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I guess my shout would have to go three ways;
My first shout to my Grandfather,keeping me and my twin occupied while at the bar.
My second shout to ,Wide World of Sports,for televising pool in the 70s IE;Moscconi v Minnesota Fats
My third shout too;Toby Sweet,watching him is beautiful.
 
My brother got me started. He was a very good player and a great gambler. Thank you, Robert and RIP.

Also, J.D. Chalker. We played each other for about 20 years after I got married. He beat me mercilessly for the first 5 years but taught me about throw, squirt, and a thousand other things. Thank you, Jay and RIP.

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My best friend George, he got me started playing this game almost 3 years ago. Late in life to start, but I'm really enjoying it. (Most of the time, when I'm not annoyed at myself for poor play, heh.:p)
 
When I was old enough to get into bars, I started playing pool. I'm not much of a socializer, so I would go into bars to get drunk and play pool. I was a banger to the 9th degree, I would slam every shot in because I enjoyed hitting them at warp speed and seeing them go in the pocket. I sucked for the most part, but could beat many of the bangers. I guess I had a better eye then they did, but I always lost to these losers that would hit the ball softly, because they got out and I didn't. Little did I know they were actually playing shape on balls whereas I shot wherever I ended up after the cueball flew around the table 4 times ricocheting off balls right and left. The allure of pool to me was shooting and making all these hard shots (because that was what I was left with most of the time after propelling the cueball at 90 mph)

I would say I enjoyed pool from 21 to 23 or so, but it was a take it or leave it game to me.. if I was around a table, I would play, but I didn't go to a bar specifically to play pool, I was there to get high and drunk:D

That all changed the day I discovered the 211 Club at 2nd and Union in downtown Seattle. That particular day, my whole outlook on pool changed 180 degrees.

I had just moved to Seattle and was supposed to be looking for a job. Being a country boy, it was my first foray into a big city and looking for a job was tough to do. I had no transportation, so I was riding a bus. I discovered that all the buses ended up downtown so I would take the bus downtown and get off. Downtown in a big city was fascinating to me with all the big skyscrapers, the thousands of people walking around on the streets, the wild spectrum of people you saw.

So I was telling my brother I was out looking for a job, but in actuality I was just taking a bus downtown and walking around checking everything out.

One day I was walking around and I saw this old building all rundown and it had the words pool hall on the outside. I got curious and thought what the hell, I'll check it out. It had a elevator at street level that took you up a few floors. I punched the button and while riding up, was taking in the wafting smell of urine from the stairs next to it. I was thinking maybe this isn't such a good idea.

But when that elevator door creaked open and I stepped out, my life changed at that very moment. I went from the bright sunlight outside, to a creaky groaning elevator ride, to the doors sliding open to reveal a very dark huge room where the only light was the light shining down on the 9 ft Gold Crowns.

I stepped out and cautiously made my way into the room navigating around tables where old men were playing cards or chess and made my way to the counter to get a beer. I was greeted with a "Whadda want". I could tell the guy didn't want to get up off his chair and take my order, but he eventually slid off the chair and got me a Bud. I turned around to take in my surroundings and it was the most beautiful place I had ever been to. Which is weird to say, as I had never been in a pool hall and was not in any way hooked on pool at that point. But I guess fate was kind to me that day, because it was in me to fall in a love with a place like this, but I didn't know that. I just had to be introduced to it.

It took several minutes for my eyes to adjust but I scanned the room and took in the beauty of it all. It was breathtaking to me. I had never seen a 9 ft table before, except one in my uncle's basement but it had some crappy cloth on it and was mostly covered up with crap all the time. I saw rows and rows of 9 ft Gold Crowns with beautiful green Simonis cloth on them. The lights were bright and lit up each table. The more I scanned the room, the more interesting stuff I saw. I saw in the corner, these HUMONGOUS tables (6x12 Snooker tables) I was blown away by the size of those cubs. I saw other tables with 2 red balls and 1 white ball and I watched but never saw a ball go down. Eventually I noticed the tables had no pockets:smile: I was really curious about that one.. never seen a table with no pockets.

After taking in all the beautiful equipment, I started focusing on the people at the tables. The very front table I noticed had 2 very focused guys playing on it. I had never seen 9 ball being played so that was interesting in itself. I noticed that the guys playing would lay down monstrous breaks when they broke the rack open. I had never seen anyone hit the balls that hard before. I eventually figured out that they were shooting the balls in sequence and if they missed the other guy would pick up where they left off.

I was too scared to ask anybody anything because everyone looked scary to me.:D It was a wild mixture of people there, people I was not used to seeing. Growing up on a farm in Nebraska did not expose me to people other then farmers in overalls. Now I'm looking at scruffy old men, young guys with big gold bracelets and rings on their fingers, well dressed men in suits, very tough looking guys with scowls on their face.

I will never forget the atmosphere of the room either. It was dead quiet except of the balls clicking or the tremendous whack when they broke or the hushed murmurs of the people watching them play. Everyone seemed so serious and focused, I was petrified standing in the corner, afraid to move and get in someone's way.

I noticed that money was being thrown in the pockets after each game. I saw people talking crap to each other while trying to get a game or after they lost. I saw money being passed around from the crowd to the player winning.

But the most fascinating thing I saw, above even the beauty of what seemed to be miles of tables with bright lights above them over immaculate clean bright green tables, was the way these guys played.

I was completely transfixed with the beauty of which these guys shot the balls in. Once I figured out that they were shooting them in order, I knew that they had to shoot a particular ball next. I noticed that when they shot the ball, they did it effortlessly. I noticed that each shot they took, seemed to almost be a easy one, because they would make that cueball go exactly where they wanted it to. I would watch them softly stroke the ball and somehow the cueball would spin around and end up with a easy shot on the next ball. It was so cool to watch the cueball do all this wild stuff I had never seen before. The cueball seemed to dance on a string and do exactly what they wanted it to do.

Being a banger in a bar, I had never seen the cueball do things I was seeing it do that day. They were making the ball back up 2 lengths of the table, they would hit it so softly but after it hit a rail it would haul azz. They would hit the ball and I would think the only way the ball could go, it would suddenly go a completely different direction then what I thought was possible.

This was my first introduction into the world of follow, draw, reverse and running english. I saw things that I later would come to know as kill, drag, pinch, stun, swerve and masse. I had never seen a masse shot in my life up until that day.

The whole game of pool changed forever for me that day. I was completely and forever hooked on pool from that day forward. I was completely taken in with the beauty of the game. I was transfixed, mesmerized with everything I was drinking in.

The entire combination of the people I saw, the way they played the game, the surroundings, the attitude. It completely took over my entire body and mind.

What seemed like a hour turned into me standing in one spot for several hours. I didn't say a word to anyone, I just stood there, drinking it all in. Before I knew it, it was time for me to go and I didn't want to. But I quietly slinked out of there, being careful to not get in anyone's way.

I thought about everything I had seen and experienced all that night and could not wait to go there again the next day. I got up the next day and quickly got on a bus and headed downtown to 2nd and Union. I anticipated the feeling I would get when that elevator door opened.

From that day on, I was hooked. To this day, all those things I saw that day, are what I love about pool. Before long I was going there every day, I started striking up conversations with people there and discovered I was at home when I was there. Those guys all became my closest friends and that place became my 2nd home. I went on to work as a houseman at this place.

So I give my shout out to the 211 Club and that fateful day I wandered across this stinky azz elevator and rode it up to the top. And that moment that door opened and my eyes adjusted, will be a moment I will never forget.

Thank you 211 and John Teerink and all the guys (and a few girls) there, for the wonderful memories and wonderful relationships that I will forever cherish. Those truly were the days. Back when pool was pool.

Some of the people that made up that place back in the early 80's when I went in there....John Teerink - Owner and champion 3 cushion and Golf player, his wife Betty, Sammy the Houseman Jones, Dan Louie, Harry Platis, Bill Webb, Roger Petit - famed cuemaker, New York Mel, Joe Chun, Vince Frayne & Lila, California Red, Cliff Thayer - champion straight pool player, Mike Zimmerman, Mike Danner, Bill Cress, Todd Marsh, J.D., Go-off Tom, Crazy Gary, Slim, Don Wirtaman, Raul, all of Johns 3 cushion buddies, all the old guys that had been coming in their whole life, Taxi Mel, Lynda Moore, Little Al, Shoji (one handed monster), Lake City Red, and the countless other guys that I see in my mind, but have forgotten their names. Plus the road players that always stopped by Seattle to try and pick Harry's pocket.... Warren Monk Constanza, Cole Dickson, Weenie Beenie, Flyboy, Smilie (great banker from Spokane I think) and all the other top pros that stopped by.

I am so blessed to know what it was like to live in one of the most famed pool halls west of the Mississippi.:thumbup:

PS: (sorry for lying to you bro about looking for a job, but it was like a drug and I was hooked from the 1st taste)

PSS: Here's a few more threads about this place, where I descibe it in detail

1. My first post ever on AZB - http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=36569

2. A thread about the Death of a Houseman - http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=1797656&postcount=22

3. A thread about Music in a pool room - http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=1673132&postcount=97
 
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10 years.

Started 10 years ago paying APA in Pueblo CO with the late Joe Kosloski at his pool hall Classic Q's. He and Guy Chemling (sp?) helped me get started at 21 and now 10 years later I still stink.
 
There were two for me, growing up on Whidbey island, north of Seattle in Puget Sound in high school from '62-'66.
Paul Kimbell, who owned the local bowling alley and first put in two Gold Crowns and then two more. Paul had played some and appreciated us kids who tried to play right . . .somehow that $1 per hour table time often was $1 for two or three. . .

And Doc Sibley, retired FBI agent and rockhound,(honest he was a member of the "Pebble Pushers" lapidary club:grin:) who was in his late 60s and always wore, dark slacks, dark shirt with a bolo tie, snap brim hat and a sports jacket.
He had been a serious player sometime, could draw the ball a full table, full table. shot with an OLD Willie Hoppe, but had a custom cue in a case in the back, 3 shafts and ivory inlays, supposedly from the cue ball from a match he won. He'd shot exhibition in the midwest against Hoppe or Mosconi or??

anyway, he taught me the game, as best I could learn it, for table time and $1.

8 Ball, line up, 14-1, 9 ball. first playing 10 ball no count, and as he got older, and I got better up to even.

He offered me that old Hoppe for $20, I offered him $15, he said OK, wanna play some 9 ball.
He took $20 off me at $1 on the 5 and $2 on the nine so fast it made my head spin. He was probably in his early 70s then and I was almost 18.

Yeah, damn I'd give a lot to shoot a rack or two with him or Paul again. . .
 
Don't know if I want to thank the guy or kill the guy.

I have played less and less and I may give up the game.

I spent a lot of my time in pool halls and I always tell myself there is something better than being in this dark room. 10 hours a week in a pool hall can equal to other things in life.

That's why I feel bad for these APA players who have to be so committed. I'm always asked to join teams but I have always declined.

I know I will be playing less in the summer and maybe I will start playing again.
 
10 hours a week??:D:D

How about 10 a day?

Yeah, I did that the winter of 71/72
Gawd I loved it . . .

except for not being able to find a game . . .
 
Thanks Mom and Dad...for owning a bar when I was a kid, the pool table there was the best daycare ever for me:smile:
 
Great story Cali.... :)

Thank you and to all of you that sent me messages regarding my post. I don't have many pleasurable times to look back on, but that period that started the day the elevator door's opened, and continued on till left Seattle, was the best period of my life.

Very fond memories that I will always cherish. I'm sure many of you have memories like that, regarding the people that got you started or the place where you started.
 
If you had to think back to the beginnings who would YOU want to give a shout out to????

Tim Thompson, I think originally out of Boulder, CO. Not long after I started playing, I met Tim and he was the first person I could talk to that had played pool at a high level, had gone on the road, etc., yet also had a humble attitude about it all.
 
Nice thread! Some great stories here. Me, had a friend as a late teen - Jeff Phillips who got me hooked in a straight pool league in Atlanta area run by a guy named Jim Brennan. I played in that league then went off to college, and rejoined after graduating. Lots of great folks that played! But two that stood out were Joe Watson and Skip ?? Traveled to a couple of tourneys watching the likes of Buddy Hall in his prime. Fascinating to me.

I left the game for a number of years as job, family, life called. Starting playing again just a few years ago, and not at fifity feel like a kid again playing. Love the game!
 
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