Side spin does not transfer

pharaoh68 said:
It looked up at you and asked what the hell "schmoosed" means??!?!?!
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Were you watching me do this?!?...How did you know?!? When it asked me the question, I realized that with a mouth, the ball was spinning the facts as it talked to me and would never roll towards the hole, what with its lips getting in the way! omg, what to do now?

So I set up the mouthy ball on the spot and hit it full with break speed...it shutup after that smackin'.:cool:

Bad ball...bad...roll straight, damnit! Kennel up, ball, kennel up!:mad:
woof woof

Jeff, too much coffee this morning, Livingston
 
chefjeff said:
Were you watching me do this?!?...How did you know?!? When it asked me the question, I realized that with a mouth, the ball was spinning the facts as it talked to me and would never roll towards the hole, what with its lips getting in the way! omg, what to do now?

So I set up the mouthy ball on the spot and hit it full with break speed...it shutup after that smackin'.:cool:

Bad ball...bad...roll straight, damnit! Kennel up, ball, kennel up!:mad:
woof woof

Jeff, too much coffee this morning, Livingston
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You taught it to roll-over with a little side spin? Maybe if you didn't smack the poor thing so hard it would have rolled-over sooner.
 
dirty balls ,,,,,,,now go wash up,,,,,,lol. seriously the balls on the table may be dirty. this is not a personal hygene isue
 
icem3n said:
Transfer of english from cue ball to object ball. Have a look at the links below (slow motion video).

http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~dga/pool/high_speed_videos/new/HSVA-85.htm

http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~dga/pool/high_speed_videos/new/HSVA-86.htm
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Excellent posts, this pretty much disproves everything Pete Lafond is trying to say. The transfer of sidespin is minimal, but it most DEFINATELY is there. It just wears off really fast. If an object ball is close to a rail, you can most definately twist banks in with sidespin. Pete, what say you to this?
 
cuetechasaurus said:
Excellent posts, this pretty much disproves everything Pete Lafond is trying to say. The transfer of sidespin is minimal, but it most DEFINATELY is there. It just wears off really fast. If an object ball is close to a rail, you can most definately twist banks in with sidespin. Pete, what say you to this?
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Actually not. I was saying that side English plus felt causes the OB to twist. I do not like the statement "side English is transferred" because it does not describe the complete shot leaving the impression that a ball moves forward with only that English. In space this is correct, on a pool table this is wrong. Even at initial impact with side English, the OB has a slight tilt to its axis due to the friction of the cloth immediately in front of the still OB ball. Later on the felt plays a greater roll in this. As small as it may seem at impact, if at that point the ball were to immediately go into space the OB would very slowly rotate continuously. The English is the greater effect at first which is why the OB has only a slight tilted axis as can be seen in the video. Later on the felt enables the rotation to speed up. "Twist" as described years ago seems to be the better descriptor.
 
icem3n said:
Transfer of english from cue ball to object ball. Have a look at the links below (slow motion video).

http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~dga/pool/high_speed_videos/new/HSVA-85.htm

http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~dga/pool/high_speed_videos/new/HSVA-86.htm
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Seems to prove my point. Note were the two colors meet to form a noticeable line around the 2nd ball. As you can see it is slowing twisting. Additionally, the twist is a continues movement and we only get to see about 3.5 inches of movement because the video is very short. (doesn't let you see the whole story) If you pay close attention you will see the ball twisting by its axis.
 
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