Agree 100%!!!!!!!
Slow play by pros
- Thread starter middleofnowhere
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Have you not seen any pro pool from the last decade???
sudocrushms
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Part of slow play is likely the risk of a mistake. These players know if they miss (be it a pocket or a safe) they'll likely lose the rack, so they're going to analyze it as long as they feel they need to. The margins are razor thin at the elite level, and there's money and livelihood on the line.
There's no excuse for amateurs to be playing slow though. I think of myself as a pretty deliberate player, but when I've tested myself on a shot clock I haven't felt rushed and rarely need an extension. 30s is a lot of time if you're focused on playing.
There's no excuse for amateurs to be playing slow though. I think of myself as a pretty deliberate player, but when I've tested myself on a shot clock I haven't felt rushed and rarely need an extension. 30s is a lot of time if you're focused on playing.
Just spit balling here but how about finding a way to incentivize speedy play. Maybe offer a bonus to the fastest played match. $2k (or whatever) split between the 2 players or top 10 fastest. A race within a race.
It’s either the carrot or the stick. Seems pool players probably prefer the carrot.
It’s either the carrot or the stick. Seems pool players probably prefer the carrot.
agree on this. MR or predator should try an invitational with a 30/20 second shot clock. UP8b have 15 second but it's a smaller table to get around
TheRooster
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I think a chess clock is the best option, and I'll say that anytime it's mentioned. Maybe it'll catch on eventually. I think this could even operate without any officials/timekeepers.
There are options for a delay and an increment which could make it more suited to pool where players need to take time to approach and leave the table.
say each player had a clock at his/her chair. they clock 'in' and have 45sec to walk to/play their shot. if the bell/alarm/air horn
goes off their turn is over. three violations you lose the match. problem solved.TheRooster
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I don’t think this particular implementation would work because an inning might last several minutes without returning to the chair. The whole idea of a chess clock is that the time limit is per game, not per shot or inning.say each player had a clock at his/her chair. they clock 'in' and have 45sec to walk to/play their shot. if the bell/alarm/air horn
then re-start the clock 'each shot' like chess. my main gist is with all the tech. and AI bullshit surely there's gotta be a simple/cheap/effective way to speed these snails up/
I absolutely agree with you. You watch pool now, The flow and freedom to play is not the same.
That is why, i think the game has slowed right down.very hard to watch. 9 ball has always been a pressure game.
9 ball should be an exciting game. But much like watching snooker, with ronnie or Jack Lisowski. Id rather watch those two, more than anybody else, because you want to see, what might happen. In a way i find snooker easier to watch than pool.at least someone will go for it. Win or loose, at least you had a go.
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Slow is slow no matter how people try and dress it up. Even some officials watching, the games, must see some matches taking too long. If its part of the game now, i doubt much will change.
if you have a shot clock it also slows the game down as players get used to it and take most all the time allowed each shot.
and make that their pace of play instead of quick shooting for most.
no one seems to get it. it is only a handful of players that cause this. deal with them personally.
and make that their pace of play instead of quick shooting for most.
no one seems to get it. it is only a handful of players that cause this. deal with them personally.
I'm no player but it's no biggie to fire at whatever dead outs come up. Still, even I can figure anybody not in the fast lane better break it down and slow down. You can't fault people for doing it how they do it.
Rather than bitch about clock riding, I propose a master clock like NFL or NBA. Now by shifting the priority to ball total instead of Da Nine or Da Tiyen, players stalling will bomb out instead of clearing their round. You get all the pool minus the nitty BS just for adjusting your sense of style.
calling the slow players robots
i understand what you’re saying,
but doesn’t ‘robotic’ imply efficient and fast?
i understand what you’re saying,
but doesn’t ‘robotic’ imply efficient and fast?
I realize nobody wants to adopt this so by way of taking up my own slack, I see that bombing the match in this format can hurt the opposing player - not much math to play proof the situation. Gotta let this digest for a while.
For the 100th time.. they are playing on tighter equipment then those older players ever played on and they are doing to pay their bills. Not just to pass the time. Of course they play slow and take their time. No difference then comparing amateur to pro golf.
so is josh filler, soufi, jayson.. not to mention ronnie o'sullivan. what you don't think the slow ones are used to tight pockets? it's not like their practice tables are GCIII's with 5" pockets.
they're slow because they are allowed to be. and they shouldn't be allowed to be.
Too much is made of the tight pockets. I wonder if the people bashing 4” pockets have spent significant time playing on them. The table plays really fair with cleanish balls and newish felt, even for a chump like me.
And that would be the same for everybody. Its not like, its a new thing in pool. Tight pockets been around a long time.it seems only last few years, events have been promoted with this idea, that it will make the game better.
I see your point but I think the biggest watched final was Davis Taylor. And Davis was not know for speed!