Sniper tips and english, observation

Klopek

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I've been using the sniper for a week now with 30 hours of table time on it and have made some conclusions about the many claims that Sniper tips produce more english than other tips.

The first thing I noticed before the tip was broken in was how soft it played and how it felt very "dead" to me. Keep in mind before this I was using a hard tip cut down very low.

At first I found myself underhitting shots and rolling short of position because the tips were softer and absorbed some of the hit energy. To combat this I started stroking the cue faster. I started to get insane english but contend that comes more from the increased stroke speed than the Sniper tip.

After about 10-15 hours the tip started to pack down and get harder. Since I'd been telling myself to stoke a little faster, I was now overhitting or rolling past position a little. To combat this I started stroking the cue a bit slower. Immediately I noticed that the insane english went away because my stroke speed had gone down.

So my thoughts about cue tips remains unchanged. That being that tip hardness or material construction mean far less towards producing spin than where the cueball is contacted, how fast the stroke is and how well the cuestick follows through the cueball.

Thought I'd post my thoughts because I read a lot of talk about the Sniper being some huge evolution when really it's more that players stroke the cueball differently when the tip is on the end of their cue stick.

Maybe they're more confident to go to the very edge of the cueball using a Sniper. This is funny because there's proof that harder tips can go further to the outer edge of a cueball than softer tips. (Softer tips sheer and glance off the cueball)

Guess I'm not one of the many Sniper converts out there, I'm sticking with tips that are hard as hell. I'm also confused by any comments that claim the Sniper is a hard tip, I would rate it as a medium at best. For those who believe a Sniper is a hard tip I suggest trying a Sumo out for a week.
 
Great post---I will be very interested in similiar and varying observations.

I took my Predator 314 to the DCC and wanted Joe Blackburn to remove my Morri medium and put on a Sniper. He said I should just reshape my Morri to a nickel shape. He reshaped it to the nickle which brought it down a little thinner and it really hit good --- a little harder though. I just need to get used to it.

I really want to try a Sniper but I hate to take a good tip off.
 
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Tennesseejoe said:
Great post---I will be very interested in similiar and varying observations.
Thanks. Another thought I had was, the way my game changed (meaning my faster stroke) while using the Sniper did produce a little extra spin to help get me out of some jams, it was this extra spin that put me in the jam to begin with.:D
 
Sniper Tips

I have been using Sniper tips for the past couple years, and have found them to be among the best for my game. I am sure that they are not the "magic" cure-all, and I believe you are correct that stroke and contact point on the cueball have more to do with english, however, I have found that the tip holds the cueball better than most allowing you to deliver that stroke with more outside spin and not miscue. The soft feel as you stated disappears fairly quickly and once you adjust the tip feels just right IMO.
 
I don't find a great deal of difference from my old tip (Everest) to the Sniper after it is broken in. It holds chalk a little better but it feels about the same now as the Everest tip and I can't tell any difference in English or spin.
 
Thanks for the detailed observation. I was/am thinking of trying a sniper when I replace my Lepro. Long time fan of those, even if they are cheapo's.

Good details.
ez
 
The jury is still out.

I replaced my Le pro tip with a Sniper recently. The first time that I played with it I wanted to rip it off! I felt the that the tip was mushy and my position play was off. I couldn't understand why, but as I continued to play things started to work back to normal. I am still not sold on the Sniper, but I am going to give it some more time. After all if you had asked me if I liked my 314 shaft the first time that I played with it I would have told you that I am sending it back for a refund.
 
JLITALIEN said:
I replaced my Le pro tip with a Sniper recently. The first time that I played with it I wanted to rip it off! I felt the that the tip was mushy and my position play was off. I couldn't understand why, but as I continued to play things started to work back to normal. I am still not sold on the Sniper, but I am going to give it some more time. After all if you had asked me if I liked my 314 shaft the first time that I played with it I would have told you that I am sending it back for a refund.

Interesting!!!!!
I thought people would have said the Lepro was mushy.
I hear ya about the 314 shaft. A friend of mine bought his and I couldnt get used to it to save my life. This was after shooting with my mid 80's Joss. Took some getting used too but 314's play very well.

ez
 
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