Sniper tips

HoskenCues said:
So will you also make the same advise to Mr. Webb to just use Triangles and LePros because he doesn't wet 'em 'coz that's not following manufacturers' advise;)?
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Man you are so wrong.
If there are cuemakers that I have the upmost respect Michael Webb is one of them....
It just looks that you are hard headed...
Tiger gives an advice on installing their product... If you follow your own rules and have problems then do not bitcxxx about it or bad mouth a product. That is all.
I am not a cuemaker by all means but I am a small repair guy that has learned a few things from many cuemakers like Al from SW, Eric Crisp, Tom Coker, Darrin Hill, Bobby Hunter, etc, etc...
If a manufacturer of a car tells me to put gas I will not use diesel, you know what I mean and you can argue and discuss whatever you want...
If I follow the advice of a manufacturer and something goes wrong, then I can address the issue and complaint about it...
If you're doing something out of their scope of advice and you get delaminated tips, then do not complain here...
Basically you are saying here that you did not follow the advice and that is why you are complaining about your own mistakes.
 
BENFICA said:
Well,
The method you use is not the method advised by Tiger.
Is because of stuff like that rumors start about all sorts of stuff. Tips are no good, etc, etc...
If you do not want to follow manufacturer advise then install only Triangles or Le Pro's. You won't have an issue for sure.
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First off, HoskenCues isn't the originator of this thread nor is he complaining about a product. He stated that he HAD NO PROBLEM with his method yet you quote him to admonish him for not moistening the tip while cutting. I don't get it. If his method works for him, why criticize it?

I'll tell you a little secret. I don't moisten the tip before cutting either. Apparently not everyone does. Does that make all of us who don't, wrong? Or does that just mean that there are many ways of accomplishing the same end-result?

Please allow me to offer this little suggestion. Once you've closed your mind, you stop learning. It's OK to defend a particular method you like but there's always another way of doing things. That doesn't automatically make it wrong.
Ease-up, open the mind to new ideas, learn & discard what you don't like.
But to criticize a man for stating that his method works for him just doesn't make sense to me.
 
samsarakid24 said:
YES, I will...........
Just because somebody is a cuemaker on here does not mean they know what they are talking about 100 % of the time. Tony is 100 % right about this issue and I'm glad he spoke up. I have been using Sniper Tips
for 5 years now with NO Problems at all..........EVER !!!!! and have heard all the wanna be repair guys and cue makers cry about Sniper tips being Junk or Trash tips that fall apart when installing or don't cut good and have to be replaced. Well I am here to set the record straight and say It's all Bullshit. It all comes down to following the advice from Tiger and others who know what they are doing. Real simple and easy to do just keep the tip a little wet, Use a SHARP blade, and do not apply tons of pressure when shaping. Just because Sniper Tips take a little longer to install then most tips to get them right does not mean the are No good or junk.
Maybe it's the installer and there lack of patience or refusal to do it the correct way that is to blame for giving a good product a bad name.
Next time before bad mouthing a product make sure you ask yourself this question. Is it really the product that is No Good or is it my Lack of Skill that just makes it seem that way ???


Paul
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Again, show me where HoskenCues is complaining about a tip install or bad-mouthing a product.
Are you guys just on a witch-hunt or is it just that time of the month again?
 
KJ Cues said:
First off, HoskenCues isn't the originator of this thread nor is he complaining about a product. He stated that he HAD NO PROBLEM with his method yet you quote him to admonish him for not moistening the tip while cutting. I don't get it. If his method works for him, why criticize it?

I'll tell you a little secret. I don't moisten the tip before cutting either. Apparently not everyone does. Does that make all of us who don't, wrong? Or does that just mean that there are many ways of accomplishing the same end-result?

Please allow me to offer this little suggestion. Once you've closed your mind, you stop learning. It's OK to defend a particular method you like but there's always another way of doing things. That doesn't automatically make it wrong.
Ease-up, open the mind to new ideas, learn & discard what you don't like.
But to criticize a man for stating that his method works for him just doesn't make sense to me.
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KJ,
My problem is....
The guy complaints about delaminating tips.. If something goes wrong, try to follow manufacturers suggestion for installation, simple as that.
I am not sue what is so hard to understand here...
 
Snipers

I have installed a fair amount of these tips over the years and did not have any major issues that I hadn't had with other layered tips. I've got one that has been on a cue my buddy made and it has been used to break and play with and has held up exceptionally well with very little maintance. I have not tried wetting tips prior to turning them but I do make sure I have a sharp cutter if not a new or fairly new one. There are a number of great tips out there, or at least great advertisement. I've cut back on using layered tips and have been playing with soaked and pressed triangles, I'm sure there are folks that hate them and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. IMO, there is too much BS advertisements in which many of us fall into, including myself at times, they tell us about the problems in controlling the cue ball then show us the solution, their product!
 
speedy5963 said:
there is too much BS advertisements in which many of us fall into, including myself at times, they tell us about the problems in controlling the cue ball then show us the solution, their product!
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Standard sales pitch everywhere, Create questionable doubt. It's unfortunate but we all fall prey to it one time or another,
 
BENFICA said:
KJ,
My problem is....
The guy complaints about delaminating tips.. If something goes wrong, try to follow manufacturers suggestion for installation, simple as that.
I am not sue what is so hard to understand here...
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I AM SERIOUSLY BEGINNING TO DOUBT YOUR COMPREHENSION ABOUT WHAT YOU READ HERE...

I NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THE TIPS DELAMINATING!:confused:
THAT WASN'T ME.
I MERELY OFFERED A METHOD THAT WORKS FOR ME:thumbup:

READ AGAIN WHAT KJ STATED IN THE ABOVE THREAD!:eek:
 
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KJ Cues said:
First off, HoskenCues isn't the originator of this thread nor is he complaining about a product. He stated that he HAD NO PROBLEM with his method yet you quote him to admonish him for not moistening the tip while cutting. I don't get it. If his method works for him, why criticize it?

I'll tell you a little secret. I don't moisten the tip before cutting either. Apparently not everyone does. Does that make all of us who don't, wrong? Or does that just mean that there are many ways of accomplishing the same end-result?

Please allow me to offer this little suggestion. Once you've closed your mind, you stop learning. It's OK to defend a particular method you like but there's always another way of doing things. That doesn't automatically make it wrong.
Ease-up, open the mind to new ideas, learn & discard what you don't like.
But to criticize a man for stating that his method works for him just doesn't make sense to me.
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THAnkS for the clarification!
 
No joke

Michael Webb said:
Standard sales pitch everywhere, Create questionable doubt. It's unfortunate but we all fall prey to it one time or another,
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I'll be the first to admit, easy to fall victim to the adds. try this do this...before you know it...you'll be so screwed up you can't pocket a ball..the hidden truth lol...you spend so much time following the adds you forget to find something and get used to it, play with it.
 
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