Some thoughts about the update "Wanted/For Sale" section.

The "Wanted/For Sale" section needs to be updated?

  • YES, I support the idea of ​​updating "Wanted/For Sale" sections

    Votes: 21 52.5%

  • NO, the changes are not needed, now all is perfectly

    Votes: 19 47.5%
  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
Hi everyone.

I don't know to the right forum section I write this post, but I think the administrators and moderators will read it anyway and will transfer it to the desired section.

At once I apologize for my English.

It's thoughts on the forum section "Wanted / For Sale". Now it is one of the most popular section of the forum and at the same time the most chaotic section.

I think there is a way that will streamline this section.

My suggestions. To impose strict rules on the publication on the Wanted / For Sale. How they can be expressed?

1. Forbid raise a topic without observance of certain clear and unambiguous rules.

2. Forbid discussion of the subject theme in the theme itself to buy or sell.
Close to respond in this thread, other than the topic-starter or a moderator. If the topic starter has adding to the product description, that is the ability to edit posts that do not entail its rise to the top.

3. The rise of threads is only possible under clear rules, and only by the topic starter, moderators or administrators.

4. Open a new section "Discussion of items Wanted/For Sale"
All discussions conducted only in this thread. In fact renamed current section "Wanted/For Sale" to "The discussions .." .

5. Bind to the topic in "Wanted / For Sale" appropriate topic in the "Discussion items Wanted / For Sale". Of course a little uncomfortable for the topic-starter, duplicate topic, but copy-paste will not take more than 2-3 minutes.;) In this case topic starter decides whether to open a discussion or to leave an opportunity for the other forum members .

What to do this.

1. Open a new message board (section) "Wanted/For Sale".

2. Rename the current section "Wanted/For Sale" in the "Discussion of Wanted/For Sale items". In fact now that this section just busy ... discussion, discussion, discussion..., but the main task - to keep the topic at the top.;) So there is no need to change anything except the name of the section.

3. Establish clear and sufficiently strict rules placing ads on the new board.

What are the rules might be?

1. It seems to me that the reason for lifting up the theme must be only offer of discounts. And the minimum size of the discount should be clearly specified in the section rules . For example the minimum discount must be at least 5% of the original price.

2. The second reason for the rise could be the solution of moderator, well, they all can;):). But also not just a personal decision, for example, only for gold members of the forum, in fact sponsors. This rule shall not be daily, but rather prolonged. For example, one time in ten days, the decision of a moderator, without reducing the price. Or attach to the top for gold members, for example for 3-5 days.

3. Prohibit the duplication of ads in any form. Perhaps with the removal of the double and the original.

What do the changes will give the result?

1. I think the result will be an ordered and clear message board.
If you had not been on the forum for 2-3 days, will not have to thumb through 20-30 pages of ads to find new and topical. Now even the new ad goes sometimes down to 10-12 pages in one day. In the new section, all will be 2-3 pages, I think. And if you see "Up" theme, you can almost count on a discount. :)

2. Simplistic tasks moderators. They will not have to follow the discussion, only the observance of the rules of publication and raising ads.

3. The more honest and objective discussion of the topic of sales or purchases. The aim posts in this case will not rise up the theme, but that will be discussion of the merits and disadvantages of the object of sale-purchase.

Certainly this is not an ideal solution. Can begin tricks, such as over-pricing by 100%, then to raise the issue every day, "reducing" the price by 5% :grin-square:. But I think all the members of the forum, and especially the moderators ;), reasonable people quickly see through this ruse. As a result, the penalty of the ban.

The second point that I see is most of the ads on the first 1-2 pages of the attached gold ads. But what prevents flip through these pages 1-2 to see the new. It's not flipping 20-30 pages of "up", "bump" and "blah blah blah".:)

These are the thoughts. I would be grateful for a business discussion of these proposals.

Sorry for the many words. And once again for my English.

Good luck.
Dmitry.
 
Why change something that works? It could improve, but this section works well.
I voted No, sorry !! :rolleyes:
 
Well, I do not deny that it works. And do not propose to take away what we have now. Just divide the ads themselves and their discussion.

Figuratively speaking, the section now looks like this.;)
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But I propose that the "Wanted/For Sale" board looked like this at least.:thumbup:
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At the same time we do not lose the right to discuss each ad about the "Wanted" and "For Sale". This current thread remains intact. Only free from unnecessary "Bump" and "Up". Added only Bulletin board with clear rules.
 
I can't see myself going to one section to view an ad, then going off to another section to discuss it

the change that I think would help would be to add sub categories. Example:
-Productions Cues
-Custom Cues
-Cases
-Tables
-Other accessories

It would make browsing easier when you're looking for something specific and would keep current threads near the top longer without bumping, since there'd be a lower thread count in each category
 
I think that things are actually working pretty well.

I find that I can some in an review the wanted/for sale section pretty easily.

Even when threads over over bumped it really doesn't present that much of a problem. If the volume was 3x what it is now I can see it becoming an issue but that seems unlikely.

As for people posting comments and questions in threads, I find this helpful.

Also, there is really not that much discussion in this forum, statistically speaking. It is usually pretty easy to ignore if you want to.

Lastly, there are already clear rules for this forum, they are just not always followed.

My opinion is that the last thing we need is more rules and control on a board the size of this one.
 
To the OP:

You are a walking contradiction.

You post a thread in the FS Section, yet you have nothing For Sale.

Your topic is how to improve the section??

Then you bump your own stupid post TWICE in the same day.

FOLLOWING THE CURRENT RULES IS A GREAT START!!

-von
 
VonRhett said:
To the OP:

You are a walking contradiction.

You post a thread in the FS Section, yet you have nothing For Sale.

Your topic is how to improve the section??

Then you bump your own stupid post TWICE in the same day.

FOLLOWING THE CURRENT RULES IS A GREAT START!!

-von
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And what is my stupidity? I have a proposal on the organization section of the forum, and where should I publish them, except in this section of the forum?

In addition, it has been repeatedly discussed the situation with this section of the forum. Here's an example
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=310455

I just suggest some options that could add order and convenience in this section, IMHO. And I would like to discuss it.

I'm not too lazy to count how many new ads Wanted/For Sale was for less than a day today. It turned out that of the more than 120 posts on 4 pages only about 20 new ads, the rest is "bump" in one form or another. How do you want to navigate in such chaos? Probably you can afford to live here in the forum :wink:, keeping track of all the news. But there are many who not comes here every day. I, for example, just do not have time every day to read the news online. Certain many other AZ-members too. So why not think about them too.

If it is absolutely against the rules, the moderators can just delete this topic, I think. But I think this question is quite actual, so posted it for discussion.
 
DBK said:
I'm not too lazy to count how many new ads Wanted/For Sale was for less than a day today. It turned out that of the more than 120 posts on 4 pages only about 20 new ads, the rest is "bump" in one form or another. How do you want to navigate in such chaos? Probably you can afford to live here in the forum :wink:, keeping track of all the news. But there are many who not comes here every day. I, for example, just do not have time every day to read the news online. Certain many other AZ-members too. So why not think about them too.
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You don't have to read every thread. It is pretty easy to scan through them. Even away for a couple of days it takes me less than 10 minutes to go through the wanted/for sale section.

Having rules that prohibit bumping or change the default sort order on threads causes different issues
 
I am for the change if only it flows flawlessly. You can create tables that would take you with in the thread. Such as having you’re for sell pic as the top of the table and from there you can click to go with in the table to view the threads. You have to run a table test with in this (Wanted/For Sale) forum to see how we prefer to adapt to the new change. It could use something with a more stream line approach. Use Visio to create your tables and post that to get some more answers.
 
VonRhett said:
To the OP:

You are a walking contradiction.

You post a thread in the FS Section, yet you have nothing For Sale.

Your topic is how to improve the section??

Then you bump your own stupid post TWICE in the same day.

FOLLOWING THE CURRENT RULES IS A GREAT START!!

-von
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I'm offended by your response. Check this out..

1. Before you are so quick to criticize, keep in mind the fact that Dmitry was only brainstorming ideas on ways to streamline the forum--ways to make it better for everybody;

2. Apparently you didn't notice that Dmitry actually has three (3) links in his post to cues that he has for sale;

3. You crtiticize his post calling it "stupid" (which I'm fairly certain insults are a violation of the forum rules), and then tell him that "Following the current rules is a great start" ??? What exempts you from following the forum rules?

OK, so you disagree with his suggestions...that was the response he was looking for--either negative or affirmative. Insults? That is what turns a respectable forum into a wasteland. Maybe you should re-familiarize yourself with the rules before you are so quick to judge others.

Giving you the benefit of the doubt by dignifying your post with a reply.

Have a great day :)
 
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If there was a way to make NON-original poster posts not bump the thread I think that would be the best thing for this subforum...
 
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