Long story short, I bought a Predator QR2 from this person. I asked him if he would send cue first because of his low Itrader but he told me a reputable cue maker on here would vouch for him, well I did the deal and as soon as I received the cue I took it to work and rolled it and this is what I received>>>>VIDEO<<<<< and here is the description thread>>>>>>THREAD<<<<<. The tip does leave the table when cue is together and this reputable cue maker only met him once and that's all he knew of him. My fault for not checking first. I left 3 pm's telling him about the cue and sent him the video, I hear nothing for about 10-13 days or so but, I look on his profile and see he's been on AZBilliards 3 different times during my pm's and I get nothing at the time saying hey, this is what's going on. That's all I needed was an answer and nothing till I get pissed. All pm's below.
ME:
Predator QR2 - 06-20-2012, 06:25 AM
I did receive the Predator today and unboxed it. The cue is beautiful and is in great shape and packaged great but, one problem, there is a pretty noticeable wobble/roll out in the newish Z2 shaft. I don't now if it happened in the travel to Myrtle Beach or if you had known about it or not. We were planning on reselling it if we did not like the feel of it. So, I don't know what the do. Two options;!- We send it back for a refund or 2- Brent said he will keep it as is if you refund $60 to his Paypal and all is good, he'll get another shaft. Let us know what you want to do. I have a video of the shaft I took when I noticed it below, let me know if the link worked. I tried to send this last night but, AZBilliards was down doing maintenance. Thanks, Ron
>>>>>>>>>>YOUTUBE-LINK<<<<<<<<<<<
Shore Thing Billiards Website
Me 2nd pm:
Get my message? - 06-21-2012, 01:30 AM
Checking to see if you received my last message and if so, what you wanna do. Thanks, Ron
Shore Thing Billiards Website
Me 3rd pm:
You going to contact me? - 06-23-2012, 04:54 AM
I seen that you been on here twice since I sent my last PM(it shows up on your profile page). I need to know what you wanna do about the cue. If I don't get an answer by tomorrow night, I'll take it that you don't wanna do anything about this matter and I'll do what I need to do. I'll send cue back for a full refund or send me back $60 for the warped shaft. You said I could trust you and you were a honest guy?
Shore Thing Billiards Website
me 4th pm and last:
Last chance - 06-28-2012, 06:19 AM
Last chance before I leave you a negative iTrader. I contacted Mr. Farr to try and contact you also. I've done all I can to resolve this. Thread said new Z2 shaft and it had a wobble/warp. Refund money and get cue back or send refund of $60 to me.
Shore Thing Billiards Website
This is what I get from him, keep in mind he's been on AZ 3 times with NO contact to me:
Re: Last chance - 07-11-2012, 05:11 AM
Quote:
hey sk8ordie. im so sorry for what happen. my father past away on the 22nd. and ive been out in washington for the funeral and all the temple being a monk (my religiosity) im sorry to hear about the wobble. but i did check before i sent it out and it was straight. and it sucks that i didnt get a chance to see these messages. and i do apologize. as of right now, i lost my job just cause i had to be out at the temple for 4 weeks. and im going threw rough times right now. the money i got from you just went towards the funeral. i dont even have a cue to play with anymore. i just dont know what to do about this. i already got my itrader from you and that hurts. but it was my fault. i really dont know what to say. but im really sorry you received it that way. and my honesty, it did roll it and it was straight before i sent it. i know its hard to believe but i am not here to rip people off. and once again im sorry. imma try to work on the 60 but its gonna take me a minute just cause i dont have a job anymore. im sorry..
I'm very sorry if this happened and all I needed was one pm telling me this but, it seemed like you were avoiding me. I felt bad and figured I'd never see any money so I just chalked it up as a lesson learned until I get a Pm from a AZer telling me he's selling/trading again>>>>>>THREAD<<<<<< So I call him out, I was never told he had a CC Cue was going to sell to recoup my money as you can read in the pm's. This is the message I get from him tonight.
Him:
hey - Today, 08:26 PM
wow are you serious right now? i apologize about the cue and i told you the truth. i am selling it outright so i can get some money so i can do my bills and i was gonna ship you 60 bucks. i sent you a message about the story and you didnt reply back. i understand you are mad at the fact that its warp. but honestly you are gonna go into my thread and make me look even worse than it is? if you would of reply i would of told you that i had a cc cue and that i was going trying to trade or sale so i can get you your money. but honestly i am sorry for that and i am trying to get you your 60. but now you just gotta go into my ****in thread and tell everyone that. that was between me and you. but whatever man. so **** you
Nice dude! I will be on every thread when you try and sell or trade sh*t. ALL YOU HAD TO DO IS SEND ME ONE PM THE 3 TIMES YOU WERE ON HERE EXPLAINING WHAT HAPPENED SO F**K YOU!
Anyway, buyer beware, cue is still in a case until I can get a new shaft for it. Can't play with it or sell it.
ME:
Predator QR2 - 06-20-2012, 06:25 AM
I did receive the Predator today and unboxed it. The cue is beautiful and is in great shape and packaged great but, one problem, there is a pretty noticeable wobble/roll out in the newish Z2 shaft. I don't now if it happened in the travel to Myrtle Beach or if you had known about it or not. We were planning on reselling it if we did not like the feel of it. So, I don't know what the do. Two options;!- We send it back for a refund or 2- Brent said he will keep it as is if you refund $60 to his Paypal and all is good, he'll get another shaft. Let us know what you want to do. I have a video of the shaft I took when I noticed it below, let me know if the link worked. I tried to send this last night but, AZBilliards was down doing maintenance. Thanks, Ron
>>>>>>>>>>YOUTUBE-LINK<<<<<<<<<<<
Shore Thing Billiards Website
Me 2nd pm:
Get my message? - 06-21-2012, 01:30 AM
Checking to see if you received my last message and if so, what you wanna do. Thanks, Ron
Shore Thing Billiards Website
Me 3rd pm:
You going to contact me? - 06-23-2012, 04:54 AM
I seen that you been on here twice since I sent my last PM(it shows up on your profile page). I need to know what you wanna do about the cue. If I don't get an answer by tomorrow night, I'll take it that you don't wanna do anything about this matter and I'll do what I need to do. I'll send cue back for a full refund or send me back $60 for the warped shaft. You said I could trust you and you were a honest guy?
Shore Thing Billiards Website
me 4th pm and last:
Last chance - 06-28-2012, 06:19 AM
Last chance before I leave you a negative iTrader. I contacted Mr. Farr to try and contact you also. I've done all I can to resolve this. Thread said new Z2 shaft and it had a wobble/warp. Refund money and get cue back or send refund of $60 to me.
Shore Thing Billiards Website
This is what I get from him, keep in mind he's been on AZ 3 times with NO contact to me:
Re: Last chance - 07-11-2012, 05:11 AM
Quote:
hey sk8ordie. im so sorry for what happen. my father past away on the 22nd. and ive been out in washington for the funeral and all the temple being a monk (my religiosity) im sorry to hear about the wobble. but i did check before i sent it out and it was straight. and it sucks that i didnt get a chance to see these messages. and i do apologize. as of right now, i lost my job just cause i had to be out at the temple for 4 weeks. and im going threw rough times right now. the money i got from you just went towards the funeral. i dont even have a cue to play with anymore. i just dont know what to do about this. i already got my itrader from you and that hurts. but it was my fault. i really dont know what to say. but im really sorry you received it that way. and my honesty, it did roll it and it was straight before i sent it. i know its hard to believe but i am not here to rip people off. and once again im sorry. imma try to work on the 60 but its gonna take me a minute just cause i dont have a job anymore. im sorry..
I'm very sorry if this happened and all I needed was one pm telling me this but, it seemed like you were avoiding me. I felt bad and figured I'd never see any money so I just chalked it up as a lesson learned until I get a Pm from a AZer telling me he's selling/trading again>>>>>>THREAD<<<<<< So I call him out, I was never told he had a CC Cue was going to sell to recoup my money as you can read in the pm's. This is the message I get from him tonight.
Him:
hey - Today, 08:26 PM
wow are you serious right now? i apologize about the cue and i told you the truth. i am selling it outright so i can get some money so i can do my bills and i was gonna ship you 60 bucks. i sent you a message about the story and you didnt reply back. i understand you are mad at the fact that its warp. but honestly you are gonna go into my thread and make me look even worse than it is? if you would of reply i would of told you that i had a cc cue and that i was going trying to trade or sale so i can get you your money. but honestly i am sorry for that and i am trying to get you your 60. but now you just gotta go into my ****in thread and tell everyone that. that was between me and you. but whatever man. so **** you
Nice dude! I will be on every thread when you try and sell or trade sh*t. ALL YOU HAD TO DO IS SEND ME ONE PM THE 3 TIMES YOU WERE ON HERE EXPLAINING WHAT HAPPENED SO F**K YOU!
Anyway, buyer beware, cue is still in a case until I can get a new shaft for it. Can't play with it or sell it.
