When I shoot I can't focus on making the object ball and eye the hit at the same time. When playing in a local small tournament I made the ball and asked my opponent, "was that a good hit?" He said, "I don't know, I was not watching." A guy watching us play said, "no it was not a good hit." Is this appropriate? If I'm wtching a game I do not comment. I was taught not to say anything if I'm not one of the players. If either of the players suspects a bad hit may be made I thought they were supposed to specifically ask someone else to wtch the hit. Am I being over sensitive?
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they should stay out of it. but many times have a favorite or friend and make comments. since its a public space, nothing you can do about it if you dont like it. thats just the way it is.
it doesnt matter in this case since the rail has no valid say in it.
it doesnt matter in this case since the rail has no valid say in it.
As you stated in the last sentence of your first paragraph, you are one of those players in the match, so knowing it might possibly be a close call, you should have asked in advance for the shot to be judged and not wait for your opponent to ask.
However, that said, if your opponent was not paying attention to even watch, you shouldn’t have even asked him, although it was polite of you to do so. You should have just kept on shooting, unless you felt it was a bad hit, then you should call the foul on yourself.
Some observers may think they are helping and may not know they really should stay out of it, unless both players agree to ask them. You never know what ulterior motives an observer might have in their opinion.
Even as a TD, if I happen to witness the shot in question, I try to stay out of it unless I’m asked to judge the hit before the shot is taken. Otherwise, I’ll wait to see how the players handle it. If I wasn’t asked but I did observe and I know for certainty if it was a good or bad hit and if the players cannot settle the matter between them, I will intervene and make a ruling, but only if I have to.
If it’s not a tournament match but a $$ session between two players, I absolutely will not get involved, even if I saw what happened and even if they ask me. I’ll leave it up to the players to settle.
If it’s a situation where I see a less experienced player being unjustly taken advantage of, unless they question it, I should still stay out of it. However, immediately after the completion of the match, I may explain to the less experienced player that it is up to them to stick up for themselves if they feel their opponent has been unfair to them. I advise them that they should know the rules and they should be paying attention at all times.
Sadly, there are players out there that will take advantage of an inexperienced player who may be unsure of the rules, or may be too intimidated to question the more experience player, and this includes sharking tactics the experienced player may try to pull.
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Depends on your opponent.
I'd let em know up front when shooting a shot like this ''JIC''.
I played a younger man last year, he was extremely ''off cue'' in many ways, to the point of trying to cheat me out of a game + other acrobats.
Here's what I did, I knew a problem was going to arise on a shot, so I asked the rail to watch, and confirm I called the combination.
He said I didn't.... then I told em, see those people on the rail?
I asked them to watch the simple combo shot that I had called, they All agreed, they had seen me already confronted multiple times in the match.
First time I've ever played a man that did all this ''stuff'' in a match.
This kid was from Albuquerque. He's fortunate I wasn't a tush hog.
I spoke out once while observing a match at our state tournament. I didnt know either player but 1 of them broke and sank the 8 ball and neither noticed, one was about to take the next shot so I mentioned that the 8 ball fell on the break. They both thanked me. I can only assume they were not very experienced because how do you decide which group you are going to shoot without knowing where the 8 lies?
I seen players run balls till they both/laughed/realized this occurred (8 ball down).
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