splice???

pdcue said:
Clairification:

My reply was to Wilee, not you.
I hadn't even read your post when I made the reply

Once again, wilee, not you

Dale



My appologies Then, and thanks for the clarification.
Guess I mistunderstood, and thought Is was directed at me, because it followed My post. I never took any real offense anyway, because I figured there's a 50% chance I am nowhere near how they do It. ;)
Like I mentioned I really don't know for sure, but what I was thinking was something like sheldon mentioned. only I left out the bored out part of that theory, but I was thinking that Myself so that the 2 parts could be fitted together. I do want to take a closer look the next time I see the guy with that cue though. Definatly an interesting topic. I dought I would ever do the same type design, but I guess I can't help but try to figure it out either way, whether I'm right or wrong. I've always been caught up in figuring out how things work, and this one has caught My attention in the past so It struck My interest.I can see by this thread It has struck interest with others also:)

Peace,
Greg
 
If I'm imagining things right, it could could be sorta like a complex finger splice... mirror image on forearm and handle... prolly joined coming from the side. my guess:D
 
Sheldon said:
Here's an idea, let's all chip in on one, and bandsaw the damned thing right down the middle..... :D

Better yet, let's see who can duplicate it in their shop.
I bet Thomas Wayne could.

I could cut the pockets into the forearm but getting the butt cut to fit them as one whole piece is far beyond my humble skills.

From what I have seen the thing is two pieces that fit like a jigsaw puzzle in 3-D.
 
I could get one cheaper than $500. I've wanted to cut one up for a while now just to see but that's still quite a bit of money just to ease my mind.

I've always thought that the handle was cored and then CNC cut the points which were then "spread" apart to fit into a inlayed pocket in the forearm. Still seems amazing to me, however it is made.

Just don't drink a bunch and roll one on the table. It'll make you dizzy. :p
 
To make this splice I would cut my forearm to length untapered, put it in the 4th axis and cut the pockets for the points.
Turn the handle section about the same OD, bore the front of the handle section to the minor diameter of the forearm pockets and to length of the points. Stick it in the 4th axis and cut away anything not a point using the 4th axis.
Carefully epoxy and slide the 2 pieces together. You dont have to worry about fall off on the points because it is already machined from a round. Taper as normal. They are one solid piece from the points to butt cap, have looked at them several times and never found a seam at the A joint. JMO on how I would do it.
Safe turning,

Kenny
 
rhncue said:
What's cleared up? I've been drawing my own programs and using CNC for years and still can't figure how they do it. I've looked at them a number of times and a couple of times have thought about buying one and soaking it in hot water for a couple of days to see if I could get it apart. It's the best thing ever to come out of Viking's shop as far as I'm concerned.

Dick

Dick
I have never seen one in person. Just a guess from the picture. If you find out how, I would appreciate it if you would let me know. I think Sheldon's idea might be right --- cored and put together. One thing that caught my attention on their website was "stain - don't recommend changing it". Maybe it is used to cover something??
 
Sheldon said:
My guess: it's done on a cnc lathe with a cnc milling fixture. The pieces are both cut the same, with pockets and points in both pieces. Then partially bored and fit together over a core. The whole thing is then tapered and finished. No rocket science, nothing all that fancy. Simply a bit of ingenuity, and the proper equipment.
Here's an idea, let's all chip in on one, and bandsaw the damned thing right down the middle..... :D

I'm in, but I like Dick's idea of soaking it in water to get them to seperate rather than bandsawing it. Let me know when we have enough to buy it, maybe we can get rat to get it for us on the cheap.
 
Kenny said:
To make this splice I would cut my forearm to length untapered, put it in the 4th axis and cut the pockets for the points.
Turn the handle section about the same OD, bore the front of the handle section to the minor diameter of the forearm pockets and to length of the points. Stick it in the 4th axis and cut away anything not a point using the 4th axis.
Carefully epoxy and slide the 2 pieces together. You dont have to worry about fall off on the points because it is already machined from a round. Taper as normal. They are one solid piece from the points to butt cap, have looked at them several times and never found a seam at the A joint. JMO on how I would do it.
Safe turning,

Kenny

works for me. i would program to do it a similar way as well.
 
Jack Madden said:
Dick
I have never seen one in person. Just a guess from the picture. If you find out how, I would appreciate it if you would let me know. I think Sheldon's idea might be right --- cored and put together. One thing that caught my attention on their website was "stain - don't recommend changing it". Maybe it is used to cover something??

I've had the chance to look at several since it is one of our stock items. They do have a light stain on the maple but I have never seen any splice in the points. The handle and the points are all one piece. I asked Barry at the SBE one year and he confirmed that. My booth will be next to Viking's this year so maybe I'll ask him again.
 
since everyone is afraid to say it I will..........

STICKER CUE :)

awaiting my lecture
 
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