Sponsorship

macguy said:
I remember a deal that Carlos Hallon had with Schuler. Carlos would take the order and a deposit then call it in to Schuler. From then on it was all between the buyer and Schuler as the cue got finished and delivered. Carlos pocked the deposit and that was his commission. From there on he was no longer involved and he got his commission on the spot, a nice incentive for him to write the order. Carlos sold a s#it load of cues for Schuler this way often making more from the cues then he did in the tournaments. It was a nice arrangement from what I saw.

It does require the cue maker to have something in the way of a brochure for the player/players to show. It could be just some pictures of completed cues the buyer can use as a guide line. Maybe show a few basic cue such as a plain Birdseye and a plain four point, a six point and so on that they can pick from that will have a short waiting. If they want something more involved that can be done as well. Either way the player/ representative has brought you the customer.
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Now this is what I call a sponsorship- kudos for Schuler and Carlos! I may do this when opportunity presents itself.

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Loyalty

I'm surprised at the lack of loyalty nowadays. I've been with the same bat company for 11 years. They hit some rough spots for about 2 years where the equipment lacked, but I kept positively speaking to others about getting an older model bat to really see what the companies about. Now they're back on top, I'm still with them and the send me free stuff now and again which gets used by me and NEVER sold off for a profit. That's just shady
 
GBCues said:
Without being too gross: "Moon Cues" conjures up an image of such a cue strategically placed in the "moon" area of said "pro".
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Gary
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Haha. I needed a good laugh !! Reminds me of the rant in " chico's" pool hall in Pool hall Junkies. "...with a pool cue sticking out of my ...":rotflmao1:
 
I'm putting together a Player Rep package. Details not finalized, but something like this:
Player Rep purchases up to 2 cues at a great discount, I supply business, cue case, patches, cards and brochures, when Rep sells a cue he/she will receive a commission based on sale price and gets it directly from the deposit he gets from the customer, after that I will correspond with customer directly (using idea from Schuler).

More details before the weekend...

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hang-the-9 said:
I guess I'm just too nice to be a contract lawyer hehe. I don't think that a $300 cue is worth that much in the overall career or a player. Now if this sponsorship (which this is not really, no-one said anything about it) included tournament and travel money, or was for a multi-thousand dollar cue (say if Shick made him a level 4+ cue) then I'm sure there would be some agreement. But absent all that, if a cuemaker told me "I'd like to make you a cue to use", if I ever stopped using it, or my son did, I would give the cuemaker first pick as to what to do with that cue. But, that is my thoughts on it, others could think that the cuemaker gave them the cue as a gift, and should not get it back. Sounds like thoughts about an engagement ring LOL, some would say that was a gift, others a "contract" to be married that if broken returns to the giver.
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Well as the cuemaker in question.....this is a gift and no obligation to me what so ever. If he was offered a deal by another cue maker I would hope he would take it and do well with it. The only thing I have said is if he didnt like the cue to send it back and I would make him something else.....still as a gift. If he should fall on hard times and need to sell this cue I hope it would bring enough money to bail him out of whatever hardship he has encountered. The cue in question that I made, if I were to sell it, is worth $600.00. I hope it helps him in someway in his pool career.

To the OP, I look at it as a job for the pool player. Just as we do in our everyday lives, offers come up from other companys to change jobs. The honorable thing to do is consider the VALUE of your current job and the expected VALUE of the new job. If you decide to make the move then turn in your notice and gracefully bow out. I refused to sponser Paul Turner or even give him a cue because I knew how that would go. I knew Paul for 20 years I guess and he almost never had the same cue. I knew it would be "lost" or "stolen" within 2 weeks. The cue I just gave as a gift to Hangthe9's kid is just that....a gift for his efforts in doing well in what I consider the best game, hobby and sport I have ever known. I am not looking for cue orders from this as I work full time at a day job, work on cues for pool rooms, play tourneys when I can plus play leagues every week.
 
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