Stacked leather? Moisture problem...

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I just got my first cue with a Stacked leather wrap. Most of my cues have been wrapless to this point. The stacked leather gets a little tackey after playing in a few matches.

So my question is: Can I have a cue maker just spray a clear coat over the wrap like what Meucci does?

Or is there something I can put on the wrap to make it moisture resistant?
 
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racer rx said:
I just got my first cue with a Stacked leather wrap. Most of my cues have been wrapless to this point. The stacked leather gets a little tackey after playing in a few matches.

So my question is: Can I have a cue maker just spray a clear coat over the wrap like what Meucci does?

Or is there something I can put on the wrap to make it moisture resistant?
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Hi Racer,

I don't know who built your cue, and do not want to know. My cues are coated from end to end. meaning, that when I coat them, and square up the channel ends for the wrap, I then coat the entire cue, including the wrap area. We use elmers white glue to hold the lnen on, and most hands sweat while holding the cues butt.... [sweating comes with a big bet too],while playing. So, I feel it's best to protect the cues handle section as well as the rest of the cue.....

Covering the leather, might be not be a good idea, holding moister in as the clear coat wears, in spots.....
blud
 
racer rx said:
Hey Michael,

Yes there is someone with a lathe, what do you recomend?
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Spin the cue and sand the stacked leather, because it is moist start with 400, then 600, lightly. Use a sanding sealer and let it dry. After that sand again with 600, then 1000 or 1500 and use a padding laquer or wood turners finish. Let each coat dryand repeat using 1000 or 1500. Four times should do it. should take about 1 1/2 hours.
 
racer rx said:
I just got my first cue with a Stacked leather wrap. Most of my cues have been wrapless to this point. The stacked leather gets a little tackey after playing in a few matches.

So my question is: Can I have a cue maker just spray a clear coat over the wrap like what Meucci does?

Or is there something I can put on the wrap to make it moisture resistant?
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I have 2 cues. Both have Tiger Wraps on them. Both have had the shiny coat removed. Both are great now. I just have to remember to keep them clean, so they don't get soiled in time.
 
ceebee said:
I have 2 cues. Both have Tiger Wraps on them. Both have had the shiny coat removed. Both are great now. I just have to remember to keep them clean, so they don't get soiled in time.
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What colors do you have? I have a medium brown that is now dark brown due to sweat and oils. I think applying leather cleaner or water would have the same effect over time. Another cue that I have with the Tiger wrap is on the dark side, so you can't see any discoloring.
 
blud said:
Hi Racer,

I don't know who built your cue, and do not want to know. My cues are coated from end to end. meaning, that when I coat them, and square up the channel ends for the wrap, I then coat the entire cue, including the wrap area. We use elmers white glue to hold the lnen on, and most hands sweat while holding the cues butt.... [sweating comes with a big bet too],while playing. So, I feel it's best to protect the cues handle section as well as the rest of the cue.....

Covering the leather, might be not be a good idea, holding moister in as the clear coat wears, in spots.....
blud
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Blud,
I'm not being flippant here, I am seriously curious. What is the point of a wrap, be it linen or leather, if it is going to be sealed with the finish? I was always under the impression that some wrap areas were linen, some leather, and some plain wood because the different materials had different characteristics (sp?) to accomadate different people's preferences in feel, sweat absorbtion, hand-cue friction, etc.
 
catscradle said:
Blud,
I'm not being flippant here, I am seriously curious. What is the point of a wrap, be it linen or leather, if it is going to be sealed with the finish? I was always under the impression that some wrap areas were linen, some leather, and some plain wood because the different materials had different characteristics (sp?) to accomadate different people's preferences in feel, sweat absorbtion, hand-cue friction, etc.
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Cat,

If you re-read the post by Blud, you will see what he is talking about, and i TOTALLY agree with him. What he means is, that he finishes the entire cue, AFTER he cuts the wrap groove, BEFORE the wrap goes on, so the "underwrap" is protected the same as the forearm and butt sleeve. Then the wrap is glued on, either linen or leather.

If i am wrong Blud, please correct me, i didn't mean to intrude...

Thanks,

Jon
 
BiG_JoN said:
Cat,

If you re-read the post by Blud, you will see what he is talking about, and i TOTALLY agree with him. What he means is, that he finishes the entire cue, AFTER he cuts the wrap groove, BEFORE the wrap goes on, so the "underwrap" is protected the same as the forearm and butt sleeve. Then the wrap is glued on, either linen or leather.

If i am wrong Blud, please correct me, i didn't mean to intrude...

Thanks,

Jon
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I re-read and I think you are correct in what he actually meant. That makes much more sense than the way I originally read it.
Thank you.
 
drivermaker said:
What colors do you have? I have a medium brown that is now dark brown due to sweat and oils. I think applying leather cleaner or water would have the same effect over time. Another cue that I have with the Tiger wrap is on the dark side, so you can't see any discoloring.
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I have 2 Cues with Tiger wraps. One is a chocolate/Black Stack Wrap & the other is a Rust/Black Stack wrap

This cue is made by John Parker of Auerbach Custom Cues.
www.auerbachcustomcues.com
 

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I am personally wary of the stacked leather wraps. There was someone over on RSB that sent his custom in to Tiger to have the wrap done back when it first came out. Shortly after receiving his cue back, he noticed that there appeared to be 'bleeding' of the wrap's stain into the the areas directly above and below the wrap....into the wood of the cue itself. Apparently the discoloration was pretty noticeable. When he contacted Tiger about this, they refused to offer to offset the cost to 'fix' the cue. Apparently their policy concerning their stacked leather wraps is pretty much use at your own risk, as they will not be held liable for any damage the wrap may cause to the cue. I guess when the wrap was removed, the staining to the handle section under the wrap was pretty significant...leaching into the 'show' woods of the cue from there.

Lisa
 
Hi Lisa:
The wrap was bleeding but it had nothing to do with the finish. It just happened at the same time. I refinished and rewrapped the cue for him. I wrapped it in textured leather. About his conversation with Tiger, I don't know any thing about that. His cue is okay now and he is happy. I have pictures of before and after.
 
I bought a Layani with the stacked leather. The leather was sticky. Thierry Layani told me that Tiger recommends cleanning the wrap with Lemon Pledge. I did this and have not had any problems since. I would try this before I break the leather seal by sanding.
 
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