Stinger vs X-Breaker

I've been playing pool for about 15 years and have tried numerous break/jump cues. I currently own a Jerico Stinger J/B and will never use anything else.

When struck properly (timing, speed, wrist snap, etc...), it creates incredible power with little effort. I find it extremely sturdy and when I need to add a little extra, I can without sacrificing accuracy.

As far as jumping, it's the best. The hard shaft and phenolic tip create a hit that is far superior for jumping than I've ever experienced before. I don't need to hammer the cue ball into the table, just a nice easy stroke gets the job done.

My vote = Stinger
 
I have broke with both before purchasing my break cue and found nothing better then the X Breaker. Just my opinion.

It breaks like a damn cannon and jumping is a cake walk. Won a small bet last night actually thanks to its help with jumping.
 
IMO the Xbreaker looks to be 100% nicer cue over the stinger.. the stinger looks like a scorpion sneaky pete..

do yourself a favor and buy a J&J jump break.. and save 200$$$.. they jump and break just as good as the expensive ones...
 
Im very happy with my Xbreaker, although I have gotten flack from pool room owners over the marks it leaves on the tables due to the phenolic tip.
 
I've tried them all...and I vote for the Varney jump/break cue, it performed the best. Oh wait....I'm a bit biased so of course I'm going to say that!
 
ChrisOnline said:
IMO the Xbreaker looks to be 100% nicer cue over the stinger.. the stinger looks like a scorpion sneaky pete..

do yourself a favor and buy a J&J jump break.. and save 200$$$.. they jump and break just as good as the expensive ones...
Actually, I had the one piece ferrule and tip J and J and cracked the phenolic tip to where the top center of it caved in. Its a nice cue for the price but for about 150 you can get something like the fury jb which is built better and will last longer and hits stronger.

The reason I upgraded to the X Breaker was because of the broken tip on the J and J. I wanted to get something that is garunteed not to do that again. Granted, it's not much to replace the tip/shaft with a new one from J and J, but I also dont want to be doing that often (cracked it after 3 months of use) and I dont want to be out of a break cue for a few days while waiting for a new one.

JMO.
 
u could buy a extra j&j j/b shaft :p u can buy them on ebay for peunuts. i think it was something like 10 or 15$.

i broke my shaft on the J&J after a year of playing and i got it repared for free.

love my J&J, and i advice it to everyone.
 
Speaking of phenolic's, ALL OF THEM will or can crack. I have pics of what is mentioned above. I used to use the phenolic (tips & 1pc tip/ferrule combo) and have now changed to the canvas resin. The phenolic did indeed crack often. I have now changed to a canvas resin thats absolutely bulletproof. I give a lifetime warranty but I've yet to have one single issue since switching over. The canvas also has a better (not slick like phen.) texture that holds chalk well. You can even use english if desired. Everyone who tries it...buys it!!!
 
Icon of Sin said:
Actually, I had the one piece ferrule and tip J and J and cracked the phenolic tip to where the top center of it caved in. Its a nice cue for the price but for about 150 you can get something like the fury jb which is built better and will last longer and hits stronger.

The reason I upgraded to the X Breaker was because of the broken tip on the J and J. I wanted to get something that is garunteed not to do that again. Granted, it's not much to replace the tip/shaft with a new one from J and J, but I also dont want to be doing that often (cracked it after 3 months of use) and I dont want to be out of a break cue for a few days while waiting for a new one.

JMO.

deffinatly.. if the j&j is too inexpensive for people.. the fury is the next step up as far as preformance and price.. i had a sledge hammer.. one of the first 10 ever made, the phenolic tip/ferrule on that cracked on me.. had it replaced and it was never the same since.. so i sold it, and bought a Pete Omen jump break.. its an awesome cue.. but everytime i play a friend that has one of the j&j's, i use that.. it seems to break just as good and it jumps balls a hell of alot easier.. BTW.. i prefer the j&j's with the white ferrule and the phenolic tip over the one piece ones...

chris
 
I have hit them both and preferred the x-breaker, although I only hit the stinger a couple racks.

I would like to see more info/pics/price on the varney j/b please.
 
ChrisOnline said:
deffinatly.. if the j&j is too inexpensive for people.. the fury is the next step up as far as preformance and price.. i had a sledge hammer.. one of the first 10 ever made, the phenolic tip/ferrule on that cracked on me.. had it replaced and it was never the same since.. so i sold it, and bought a Pete Omen jump break.. its an awesome cue.. but everytime i play a friend that has one of the j&j's, i use that.. it seems to break just as good and it jumps balls a hell of alot easier.. BTW.. i prefer the j&j's with the white ferrule and the phenolic tip over the one piece ones...

chris
Hmmm, never tried the two peice ferrule and phenolic tip on that cue. Gonna have to get a shaft with that tip combo on it to replace the old one. At least with that one you can take it to a local pro shop and get a nwe phenolic tip installed, is it possible to have the one piece removed and converted to two piece??? I have no clue, I just buy :D
 
Here are some pics. The one with ringwork has the 1pc canvas tip/ferrule combo. The basic cue has the canvas tip on an unbreakable ferrule. Prices are in the $375 range for fancier ones with ringwork...less for the more plain cues. Feel free to pm me for more details.
KV
 

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Icon of Sin said:
Hmmm, never tried the two peice ferrule and phenolic tip on that cue. Gonna have to get a shaft with that tip combo on it to replace the old one. At least with that one you can take it to a local pro shop and get a nwe phenolic tip installed, is it possible to have the one piece removed and converted to two piece??? I have no clue, I just buy :D


Yes, you can have it done. Just have an unbreakable ferrule such as Ivorine 4 installed. Then have the tip made with a stem thats threaded down into the ferrule...that way no worries about the tip ever coming off.
KV
 
uwate said:
Im very happy with my Xbreaker, although I have gotten flack from pool room owners over the marks it leaves on the tables due to the phenolic tip.


I left a few marks on the table with my X-breaker as well.I then sanded(rounded) the edges of the tip ever so slightly and that problem didn't exist anymore.
Also the X-breaker tip isn't made of (apparently) phenolic, but is made with a material harder than phenolic. It holds chalk much better than phenolic.

I find the X-breaker to be a great break cue.Although my break needs a lot of work(power/timing wise) I find that if you can make good contact that it smash the balls wide open even with a medium power accurate hit.I'm also finding that the cue ball doesn't travel all over the table as much as it did with other cues and I can often park the cue ball near the middle.As far as jumping goes, one ball width jumps are a cinch with a little practice.


Like every shot in pool there are no miracle cures for a bad stroke, however, the X-breaker with its low deflection and super hard tip will give any player as better chance of making some good contact.I've never tried a Fury to compare, but for sure one cannot go wrong with an X-breaker.
RJ
 
I don't even think the issue is debatable. The X-Breaker is far and away the best brea cue on the market. And aside from that, it is the best, most accurate jumper out there too. You can't beat it.
 
uwate said:
Im very happy with my Xbreaker, although I have gotten flack from pool room owners over the marks it leaves on the tables due to the phenolic tip.
Not phenolic, its a compound that was developed and is harder then phenolic.
Varney said:
Speaking of phenolic's, ALL OF THEM will or can crack
That's another reason I went with the X Breaker. It's not phenolic and they garuntee it.
 
Icon of Sin said:
Not phenolic, its a compound that was developed and is harder then phenolic.

That's another reason I went with the X Breaker. It's not phenolic and they garuntee it.

And for the record, Richard sticks by his guarantee. My X-Breaker developed a problem. I emailed Richard, then sent the cue back. He was outstanding in terms of customer support, no BS about oh, that's not covered, give me the exact second it happened etc. He flat out said, alright, I'm going to send you the latest version of the X-Breaker with your specifications. Great person to deal with and a 100% no-hassle warranty.

Now, only problem is that I have to wait until the next batch of cues are available :D
 
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