Tagua Nut Ferrule

PariahZero

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I decided to give this ‘vegetable ivory’ a try... mostly for the sake of practice and see if it could be done. I saw a few old questions here on AZB where a few asked if it could be done, and figured “learning is fun.”

I figure somebody’s search the forum in the future, and might benefit from this. Hello from 2021! Did you ever visit Iceland like you wanted?

I sort of succeeded at making a ferrule, and made a few beads. I’m sure with a bit more practice I could probably get better results. I “wasted” a good 1-1.5 mm of diameter and another 5-6 mm of length. It seems to chip into a table-salt sized powder, and has no disagreeable odor. Larger nuts have a big chamber inside, full of cracks, and working around the cracks can be tricky.

My Tagua has a Shore D hardness of 81 or so. It’s also somewhat brittle — I had to work it fairly slowly. I’m not sure if it’s the material, or my desert environment with 20% humidity. I’ve read advice that real ivory isn’t easy to work in the desert either. That said, I was able to turn, drill, and tap to 5/16-18 without much problem.

It polished up reasonably nice. You can see the side of the ferrule that is next to the shell, and there’s a visible bit of shell as well. I have no idea how it’ll age, or hold up to chalk.

I’m pretty certain it’d never work on a break cue, and I’m kind of dubious that it has any properties that make it better than the various thermoset and thermoplastic ferrule materials.

I’ll try to get pictures with better lighting, if anybody’s interested. It does have a translucency to it, and looks pretty good.

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My first ferrule attempt broke...

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PariahZero

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A couple more pictures

Tagua in the center. Then from left to right:

Ivorine-IV
Elforyn White
Topek
Tagua
McDermott
PVC-II

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Ivorine-IV, Elforyn White, Tagua, McDermott, Topek, PVC-II

The interior of the Tagua is the most luminous; it’s also the smallest.

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PariahZero

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Let us know how you like how it play and how it holds up.

Gonna be a lil’ while. I’ve got a few more nuts that I can turn into ferrules... hopefully I’ll get one that’s 14mm or larger.

If not... well, it’s an opportunity to learn how to turn a shaft down to 12mm. I’m sure I’ll slaughter a few Lowe’s dowels in the process. (No sense ruining a nice shaft learning)

I might have to buy your book sooner rather than later, Mr. Hightower.
 

CuesRus1973

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I've heard of tagua nuts but never tried them. Your results will be interesting to me as well.
 

cueman

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I've heard of tagua nuts but never tried them. Your results will be interesting to me as well.
I cut many of them up years ago into small inlay slabs, because I could not get ferrules out of them. I like natural shedded moose antlers as an alterative to elephant ivory.
 
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PariahZero

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I cut many of them up years ago into small inlay slabs, because I could not get ferrules out of them. I like natural shedded moose antlers as an alterative to elephant ivory.

I’m too young to have ever seen ivory. I may have seen it in a museum somewhere, but that’s about it.

In some ways that’s fortunate: I can’t wax nostalgic over something I’ve never seen or used. I’m vaguely curious about trying an Ivory ferrule, just to see what the hubbub is about.

Is Mammoth Ivory at all comparable? Or is it just too brittle?
 

cueman

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I’m too young to have ever seen ivory. I may have seen it in a museum somewhere, but that’s about it.

In some ways that’s fortunate: I can’t wax nostalgic over something I’ve never seen or used. I’m vaguely curious about trying an Ivory ferrule, just to see what the hubbub is about.

Is Mammoth Ivory at all comparable? Or is it just too brittle?
Most mammoth is chalky and weak. But some have survived pretty strong. Ivory has it's own hit. I love it in a joint, but not in a ferrule myself.
 
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