taper machine

Cue Crazy

Cue Crazy

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Heard the arguments over the router verses the saw design. If the table saw machine's over hang causes problems, would It make since to mount the saw on a carraige running over the shaft instead of the opposite, or would there be chatter that would be too uncontrolable? Seems as if the carraige would also require less travel if setup that way. I also was thinking of a hinged type mount for the saw that would allow It to ride on the taper bars easier, but don't know if a spring would be enough to dampen It. just a thought, as been thinking about a design to build. Would love to hear if anyone has built one this way.

Greg
 
I was thinking of desiging a taper machine along the same line. This would be a dedicated machine for tapering butts. The saw would be mounted on a carriage with its own bed and the butt would have an independent platform at angle running along the carriage to get the desired taper. This would free me from working with setting up a taper bar, and having those two fixtures as stable as they could be.

Hadj
 
That's an idea with the butts. I would like to eventually build 2 dedicated machines, one for shaft, and one for butt. These would be setup By theirselfs in a room, with dust collection hooked up, and limit switches, so I can walk away, and work on something else while tapering stock at the same time. The shop we will be rebuilding for now, has a smaller room attatched that will be perfect for that. I am also in the proccess of making a dryer for spraying which will have It's own booth, smaller ofcoarse. I made a real simple proto type headstock, and tailstock from parts i had to hold the cues, and rotate them while spraying. I need to build some more, and then run them all together on a belt and pulley assembly. I snatched a stepper out of a old HP printer just to test, and hooked It up to the headstock proto type, and It worked great, just need to build the rest, and hook everything up. Still need a few parts and motor that is more suited for spraying, as I don't want to ignite any fumes. Greg
 
spraybooth motors

Greg...Try Surplus Center or C and H Sales for all kinds of motors and electrical stuff. A dc motor w/ simple rheostat control can give variable speed for each station. Better to arrange independent spraying setups for each piece, since you need one speed to spray and another to flow and set up, without flinging off the finish. The surplus parts available are mostly new and usually el cheapo to buy, but v.good qual.

paul
 
Thanks for the heads Up Paul, Don't know If I have had the chance to tell you yet, that you make some very beautifull Butterflies, and I for one am glad you are carrying on an somewhat forgotten design, and keeping It alive for others in the future to enjoy. I always liked the butterflies myself, and you have taken them to a whole nother level of perfection. It would be a shame for something so beautifull to be lost over the years, Just because of the amount of work and knowhow that goes into them. From what I understand you had to go the hard way in your cuebuilding as well, and some did not take you all that seriously. I believe any dought has left those minds now, as you have well proved your dedication and talent. I for one can't wait untill I can afford to buy one of them for Myself, but since I am struggling myself right now, takes everything I have to support My cuebuilding asperations at this time. Needless to say any advice you give catches My attention right away.
I am familiar with surpluss center, as I get their catalog, and they do have some great low cost stuff to play with. I will be checking out the other place you mentioned as well, Need all the help I can get on parts.
I could easily make them independent, as the prototype was designed just to have a single unit to work on for now anyway. All I have to do is copy the one I already built. Guess I just saw the way others made theirs, so thought they should be built that way. My original Idea was independent, It would actually be easier to do that way. Also Now that you mention It, that does make alot of sense to keep them independent of each other. I know what you are saying about throwing the finish around when flowing It, the finish I have used so far depends on flowing It at just the correct speed, in order to build the finish up enough to work with, or else I could never get enough on the cue for the deep finish without major peel, not to mention I am not looking into getting in the candy cane bussiness anytime soon. Makes since to me.

Thanks for helping steer Me in the correct direction, Look forward to reading more of your posts in the future.

Greg
 
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Cue Crazy said:
Thanks for the heads Up Paul, Don't know If I have had the chance to tell you yet, that you make some very beautifull Butterflies, and I for one am glad you are carrying on an somewhat forgotten design, and keeping It alive for others in the future to enjoy. I always liked the butterflies myself, and you have taken them to a whole nother level of perfection. It would be a shame for something so beautifull to be lost over the years, Just because of the amount of work and knowhow that goes into them. From what I understand you had to go the hard way in your cuebuilding as well, and some did not take you all that seriously. I believe any dought has left those minds now, as you have well proved your dedication and talent. I for one can't wait untill I can afford to buy one of them for Myself, but since I am struggling myself right now, takes everything I have to support My cuebuilding asperations at this time. Needless to say any advice you give catches My attention right away.
I am familiar with surpluss center, as I get their catalog, and they do have some great low cost stuff to play with. I will be checking out the other place you mentioned as well, Need all the help I can get on parts.
I could easily make them independent, as the prototype was designed just to have a single unit to work on for now anyway. All I have to do is copy the one I already built. Guess I just saw the way others made theirs, so thought they should be built that way. My original Idea was independent, It would actually be easier to do that way. Also Now that you mention It, that does make alot of sense to keep them independent of each other. I know what you are saying about throwing the finish around when flowing It, the finish I have used so far depends on flowing It at just the correct speed, in order to build the finish up enough to work with, or else I could never get enough on the cue for the deep finish without major peel, not to mention I am not looking into getting in the candy cane bussiness anytime soon. Makes since to me.

Thanks for helping steer Me in the correct direction, Look forward to reading more of your posts in the future.

Greg
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Greg, I build and sell a very good table saw machine with two heads. You can turn cut a shaft on one side and turn cut a butt on the other of the machine, at the same time, or turn cut two of the same at the same time.There is "NO" over HANG with my machine. It's cariage is fully supported at all times. It's foot print is 30" X 74". It makes 1.5 million cuts per 30"....It runs smooth and makes little noise. Call me for a price and delivery time. This machine can be either CNC, [which will turn cut the same on both sides], or mechanial which I explained above. The machine weighs in at 675 LBS. So, as you can see, it's got mass, and is very stable.
I also have lease finance, for all my machinery.

blud
830-232-5991
 
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blud said:
Greg, I build and sell a very good table saw machine with two heads. You can turn cut a shaft on one side and turn cut a butt on the other of the machine, at the same time, or turn cut two of the same at the same time.There is "NO" over HANG with my machine. It's cariage is fully supported at all times. It's foot print is 30" X 74". It makes 1.5 million cuts per 30"....It runs smooth and makes little noise. Call me for a price and delivery time. This machine can be either CNC, [which will turn cut the same on both sides], or mechanial which I explained above. The machine weighs in at 675 LBS. So, as you can see, it's got mass, and is very stable.
I also have lease finance, for all my machinery.

blud
830-232-5991
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Hello Blud,

Sounds like a heck of a machine. As much as I would love to own some of your fine equipment, I am affraid my limited budget right now does not allow for It at this time. We will probably be making a move in the near future to aquire a more suitable work area, when that takes place should free up some funds. I usually like to buy outright, so don't take part in lease programs for the most part. trying to pay off all the credit cards still, so don't want to use them yet either. I don't have a morgage now, so would prefer to keep It that way If I can, because It gives Me more freedom in what I am doing. I would love any brochure, or mailing you might put out for future reference, If you have that sort of thing that is. Anything focused at the small, low production guy would interest me. Looking to keep things kind of smaller, therefore more managable. I'll probably have some kind of tapering machine built by the time I could buy one, but does not meen I will be satisfied with it, or won't want another of better quality in the future. I have made a few things Myself, and must admitt, I get a certain satisfaction from It. Ofcoarse with that all being said, I really am impressed by some of what I have seen of yours, and would be proud to own any of It. Look forward to swaping thoughts with you on az in the future.
Also Our prayers here are with the 2 of you.

Thanks
Greg
 
Blud's machine

For what it is worth, I have used one of bluds saw machines and it is by far the best machine I have used for cutting cues. The butt and shafts come out so smooth they hardly need any sanding at all. They look oldmost polished from the blade. The machine is well worth the money. Blud also overbuilds everything he makes, So it will last you a very long time. Chris.
 
Chris Byrne said:
For what it is worth, I have used one of bluds saw machines and it is by far the best machine I have used for cutting cues. The butt and shafts come out so smooth they hardly need any sanding at all. They look oldmost polished from the blade. The machine is well worth the money. Blud also overbuilds everything he makes, So it will last you a very long time. Chris.
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I have heard this Myself many times, and don't dought it for a second, because they look well built, and I even see some thoughts i have had, that he seemed to have accounted for when designing, from the looks of the equipment. That tells me it was well thought out. Not to mention his many years at It, and wonderfull reputation. If I could, I would jump right on board, but need to make sure I am serious when I do, so I don't waste his time. I don't even have any idea what the price ranges are, so hard to know when I need to talk serious, but sure i am not there yet. Greg
 
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Cue Crazy said:
I have heard this Myself many times, and don't dought it for a second, because they look well built, and I even see some thoughts i have had, that he seemed to have accounted for when designing, from the looks of the equipment. That tells me it was well thought out. Not to mention his many years at It, and wonderfull reputation. If I could, I would jump right on board, but need to make sure I am serious when I do, so I don't waste his time. I don't even have any idea what the price ranges are, so hard to know when I need to talk serious, but sure i am not there yet. Greg
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Hi Greg,
Leave your number in my PM, and I'll call you with prices.This is just part of doing business, so don't worry about being a bother.
blud
830-232-5991 home/office
830-796-1610 cell
 
blud said:
Hi Greg,
Leave your number in my PM, and I'll call you with prices.This is just part of doing business, so don't worry about being a bother.
blud
830-232-5991 home/office
830-796-1610 cell
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Hey Blud,
dropped you a PM.
Thanks, Greg
 
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