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pete lafond said:
Straight? You must mean when "throwing the ball". Thats a different term.
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Nope, I wrote what I meant. Neither inside nor outside can apply to a straight in shot since there is no cut angle, plain and simple, yet I hear players say they used outside on a straight-in shot. Well, is that left or right? Isn't it more definitive to just say left or right rather than an ambiguous relative term?
 
hard2ctrl said:
Russell,

Anyone could score a 100% on a test where the questions are correct, but only YOU, Russell Killgo can make 100% on a test where some of the questions are wrong to begin with. Congratulations!

I am NOT A “PROFESSIONAL POOL PLAYER”, but have played since I was 12 and I agree with Fred.

Russell, maybe if you would TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR DAUGHTER , your pool playing would go better. Or maybe it is just time to get a real job and start supporting your child.

Matt
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not sure if a public forum is the best place for this convo.......

VAP
 
DoomCue said:
Nope, I wrote what I meant. Neither inside nor outside can apply to a straight in shot since there is no cut angle, plain and simple, yet I hear players say they used outside on a straight-in shot. Well, is that left or right? Isn't it more definitive to just say left or right rather than an ambiguous relative term?
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Left and right could be ambiguous too, depending upon perspective. :D We could also describe side spin as clock face times. Which would give some degree as to how much top or bottom spin is used with the sidespin.

How bout latitude & longitude coordinates.

Rick
 
hustlefinger said:
Left and right could be ambiguous too, depending upon perspective. :D We could also describe side spin as clock face times. Which would give some degree as to how much top or bottom spin is used with the sidespin.

How bout latitude & longitude coordinates.

Rick
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No matter where you stand in relation to the table, left spin is left spin and right spin is right spin. There's no ambiguity.
 
DoomCue said:
You can see the answers here.

What I want to know is, who says it's not acceptable to drop the elbow during the follow through? Who cares what happens to your elbow after cue tip/cue ball contact?
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this is the one that got me, total billsh*t.

that stupid test said:
5) When the cue is gripped properly, it should not touch the palm of your hand.
a) True
b) False
Correct Answer: A
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DoomCue said:
Nope, I wrote what I meant. Neither inside nor outside can apply to a straight in shot since there is no cut angle, plain and simple, yet I hear players say they used outside on a straight-in shot. Well, is that left or right? Isn't it more definitive to just say left or right rather than an ambiguous relative term?
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Understand that there is no reason to hit an object ball with left or right on a straight shot except if a throw is in mind. In which case you are talking about something entirely differnent, "a throw". Which is to affect the ball. Inside and outside english do affect the ball, but its effect is already understood, rather the intent is to dictate the direction of the cue ball off the rail for position. If anyone is telling you they are hitting a straight shot with left or right spin and are not primarily concerned with a throw, you better re-examine their billiard capability.

Anyway just consider inside and outside english as a tool to affect cue ball position, primary. Consider "throw" as another independant shot with the shot making in mind as primary with position as secondary. To mix the two would surely cause confusion.
 
DoomCue said:
No matter where you stand in relation to the table, left spin is left spin and right spin is right spin. There's no ambiguity.
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Not accurate, object ball and cue are lined up in the middle of the table. Which pocket - left or right. (does not need to be lined in the middle either).
 
pete lafond said:
Understand that there is no reason to hit an object ball with left or right on a straight shot except if a throw is in mind. In which case you are talking about something entirely differnent, "a throw". Which is to affect the ball. Inside and outside english do affect the ball, but its effect is already understood, rather the intent is to dictate the direction of the cue ball off the rail for position. If anyone is telling you they are hitting a straight shot with left or right spin and are not primarily concerned with a throw, you better re-examine their billiard capability.

Anyway just consider inside and outside english as a tool to affect cue ball position, primary. Consider "throw" as another independant shot with the shot making in mind as primary with position as secondary. To mix the two would surely cause confusion.
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I repeat, I wrote what I meant. I am NOT talking about throw, you are. Throw is an object ball phenomenon. I'm talking about cue ball spin and the proper use of language in describing said spin. I repeat, if a shot is straight-in, there is no such thing as either inside or outside spin. If you can't figure that out, then never mind.

-djb
 
pete lafond said:
Not accurate, object ball and cue are lined up in the middle of the table. Which pocket - left or right. (does not need to be lined in the middle either).
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What in the hell are you talking about? If you hit the CB on the left side, it's left hand spin. No matter where you stand, whether you're the shooter or a spectator, it's still left hand spin. I'm talking about SPIN, specifically rotation about the vertical axis of the sphere we call a cue ball. I'm not talking about pockets, your hands, your eyes, throw, or anything else. SPIN. Sheesh.

-djb
 
pete lafond said:
Understand that there is no reason to hit an object ball with left or right on a straight shot except if a throw is in mind. In which case you are talking about something entirely differnent, "a throw". Which is to affect the ball. Inside and outside english do affect the ball, but its effect is already understood, rather the intent is to dictate the direction of the cue ball off the rail for position. If anyone is telling you they are hitting a straight shot with left or right spin and are not primarily concerned with a throw, you better re-examine their billiard capability.

Anyway just consider inside and outside english as a tool to affect cue ball position, primary. Consider "throw" as another independant shot with the shot making in mind as primary with position as secondary. To mix the two would surely cause confusion.
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Hmmm, i dont mean to be an asshole, but you better check your billiard ability if you think straight in shots never require english unless throw is involved. I'll show you one on the WEI table that requires english. Well i shouldn't say requires, but this is how i play it anyways.

Shot (How do you play it?):
START(
%Aq7G5%BC9O9%Hr9Q5%IU1G8%Jo8D0%Kd5D1%LO4Z2%MD5D4%N^1L4%O[4Z4
%Pp4N7%eC1b0
)END

My way:
START(
%Aq7G5%BC9O9%Hr9Q5%IU1G8%Jo8D0%Kd5D1%LO4Z2%MD5D4%N^1L4%O[4Z4
%Pp4N7%Un3Z3%Vq6G9%Ws8C0%Xq8F6%[H8F4%\m2[0%eC1b0
)END

But I like stroking the ball. I honestly don't see any other option here. That is, assuming the tables are tight and i can't cheat the pocket to create an angle.
 
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fxskater said:
Hmmm, i dont mean to be an asshole, but you better check your billiard ability if you think straight in shots never require english unless throw is involved. I'll show you one on the WEI table that requires english. Well i shouldn't say requires, but this is how i play it anyways.

Shot (How do you play it?):
START(
%Aq7G5%BC9O9%Hr9Q5%IU1G8%Jo8D0%Kd5D1%LO4Z2%MD5D4%N^1L4%O[4Z4
%Pp4N7%eC1b0
)END

My way:
START(
%Aq7G5%BC9O9%Hr9Q5%IU1G8%Jo8D0%Kd5D1%LO4Z2%MD5D4%N^1L4%O[4Z4
%Pp4N7%Un3Z3%Vq6G9%Ws8C0%Xq8F6%[H8F4%\m2[0%eC1b0
)END

But I like stroking the ball. I honestly don't see any other option here. That is, assuming the tables are tight and i can't cheat the pocket to create an angle.
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Can you give me the link so that I can check it out? Thanks.
 
Who uses spin for anything except to legthen or shorten the angle of the cueball after contacting the rail?

Am I missing some point to this argument? :confused:

Anytime spin is applied to a ball throw must be compensated for.

A pocket may be cheated on a straight-in shot.
But then, it really isn't straight anymore.
Right?
If by a straight-in shot it means that the ball, the cueball, and the pocket are lined up directly, the outside or inside is used in relation to the direction of the throw (not exactly a phenomenon when compared to say........the aurora borealis).
 
fxskater said:
Hmmm, i dont mean to be an asshole, but you better check your billiard ability if you think straight in shots never require english unless throw is involved. I'll show you one on the WEI table that requires english. Well i shouldn't say requires, but this is how i play it anyways.

Shot (How do you play it?):
START(
%Aq7G5%BC9O9%Hr9Q5%IU1G8%Jo8D0%Kd5D1%LO4Z2%MD5D4%N^1L4%O[4Z4
%Pp4N7%eC1b0
)END

My way:
START(
%Aq7G5%BC9O9%Hr9Q5%IU1G8%Jo8D0%Kd5D1%LO4Z2%MD5D4%N^1L4%O[4Z4
%Pp4N7%Un3Z3%Vq6G9%Ws8C0%Xq8F6%[H8F4%\m2[0%eC1b0
)END

But I like stroking the ball. I honestly don't see any other option here. That is, assuming the tables are tight and i can't cheat the pocket to create an angle.
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I would not consider the shot illustrated as "straight in"
You have an angle to work with there
 
hustlefinger said:
Your left or my left?
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I hope you're being facetious. If not, ask yourself a question. Think about it before you answer. If I spin the cue ball in place and walk around the table, will it ever suddenly start spinning in the opposite direction?

-djb
 
BazookaJoe said:
I would not consider the shot illustrated as "straight in"
You have an angle to work with there
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I meant it to be straight in, maybe my eyes are off. If i say its straight in and my drawing is off it IS straight in.


WEI TABLE HERE
 
Fixed so its visually straight in now.
START(
%Aq9G3%BC9O9%Hr9Q5%IU1G8%Jo8D0%Kd5D1%LO4Z2%MD5D4%N^1L4%O[4Z4
%Po9N5%Ul6Z8%Vq8G9%Ws5B9%Xr2F7%[H8F4%\m2[0%eC1b0
)END
 
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