Texas One Shot

DaWizard

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A new poolgame! @TwistedTexasStyle seems to be creater or otherwise connected.
It seems fun enough to dedicate a topic to it. Let's play and discuss!
Texas One Shot Rules (AI Summary):
  • Goal: Like 9-Ball, but only moving the 9-ball after hitting the lowest ball first earns an extra shot. Pocketing the 9-ball legally wins the game.
  • Rack: Rack the balls in a 90 degree rotated diamond; 1-ball at the new head, 9-ball on the foot spot.
  • Break: Break from the center "square up" zone with force (no soft breaks).
  • Movement Definition: If the cue ball touches the 9-ball (even if it doesn't visibly move), it is deemed to have moved.
  • No 'rail touch rule': After hitting the lowest ball first, if the 9-ball moves, there is no need to drive a ball to a rail or pocket.
Rules: https://www.tx1shot.com/rules-howtoplay

Here's two hours of play:

 
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A question that I had: why is a soft break not allowed and how is the power break enforced? (e.g.: at least 3 balls need to hit a rail)
 
A new poolgame! @TwistedTexasStyle seems to be creater or otherwise connected.
It seems fun enough to dedicate a topic to it. Let's play and discuss!

Rules: https://www.tx1shot.com/rules-howtoplay

Here's two hours of play:

Thank you for taking the time to research the game! The website does need some work. It is not my strong point. I came up with this game after being froze in for a week with no electricity and by myself. Fortunately I had a little 8 foot table all to myself. My mind might of been altered during this event. I played a lot of pool through out the week. I am admittedly just a barroom hack but now I'm at least in a league. I was such a banger I did not even know the derogatory terms 'riding the 9' and 'banger' and was barely familiar with 'carom' and 'push out'. Lonnie with Backwards Billiards was kind enough to capture some video, a primer as it were, of Texas One Shot(TM). I do some of the narration and my buddy Key plays Lisa(Lonnie's wife) the first few games. I showed the game to BCA's Randy Geottlicher who liked it enough to gather a group of instructors for what was called the 'Come and Break It' tournament. The game passed the stress test but that did not mean everybody liked the game. I picked up from the event I should appeal to the youth and that new pool game is not needed so it better be good. I have international trademarks on the game in hopes of back-dooring the game into Olympic discussion by preserving the rules so the game is played by the same rules world-wide. Standard rules are an Olympic requirement current games have trouble meeting. World-wide play is a condition this game must struggle to overcome for Olympic consideration. People can freely play the game world wide and I won't make a penny. If I can have some fun and sell Phat Rack Lover T-shirts and occasionally wear a Phat Rack Specialist shirt I'll have fun and a chance to make a buck. If I can some how stimulate talk about Olympic Pool I feel I will have made a positive impact on a sport I truly love. Look for 'Riding the 9' in this forum for more of my take on the game. DaWizard, thank you for bringing attention to game! Reed
 
A question that I had: why is a soft break not allowed and how is the power break enforced? (e.g.: at least 3 balls need to hit a rail)
The game draws on BCA rules for 9ball except for the reward system change and the change in racking. Every game deserves its own rack so I twisted the 9ball rack 90 degrees, moved the 1 ball to the new head of the rack and put the 9 on the spot because the game is all about the 9. However the BCA enforce a the break is how this game is intends to interpret the rule. That is why I went to Randy Geottlicher, rules are his thing, I just changed the reward system. Someday the rack may be hacked and the game may be forced to go back to the 9ball diamond. These are the glory days were the rack is twisted, its challenger racks and break your own! I have the audacity to think you can break and have the first shot almost guaranteed and I can still win! When I first saw the Phat Rack I felt the 1, 9, object ball lined up in a row was too phat and juicy to allow breaking any where behind the head line so I decided to reduce the area a player can break from. My choice from between breaking from outside the box(center square) or requiring players to square up to break(from inside the center square) was decided by gamblers not breaking until the pot is right(all squared up). Time will tell if I made the right choice.
 
It is confusing because there is no reward in pocketing a ball, except the 9
Yes this got me a little puzzled at first. It feels like something is needed here - but perhaps not!
Im curious to try it with the original rules, but I would spice it up with:

Player keeps shooting if:
1) the 9ball moves
2) the ball with the lowest number is hit first and any ball is potted through a bank- or kickshot.
 
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Yes this got me a little puzzled at first. It feels like something is needed here - but perhaps not!
Im curious to try it with the original rules, but I would spice it up with:

Player keeps shooting if:
1) the 9ball moves
2) the ball with the lowest number is hit first and any ball is potted through a bank- or kickshot.
The game gives you plenty of opportunities for banks , kicks and caroms but it is all about the 9 and only the 9 every shot. It is the only game I know to win you have to make a ball to win but don't need to pot a ball to shoot again. It took months for me to become completely comfortable with not potting a ball to shot again. My first 40 years of playing pool was all about potting balls, all the sudden I was forced to prioritize ball control and positioning. This is why I think it is a great teaching game, ball control becomes more important potting object balls. It frees the mind to focus on strategy over shots.

During most shots in Texas One Shot three balls are moving while in 9ball often only two balls move. Cue ball control is vital in the game to move the 9 and/or to line up for the next shot. Not having to touch a rail if the 9 moves is a really fun way for a player to find out how well the can control three balls at once. It is harder than most people think. It takes some adjusting to get used to the different reward system but when you figure it out you start making some really fun shots.

If you get ball in hand, generally instead of trying to make an object ball straight into a pocket like you would in 9ball, you are trying to use the lowest ball to move the 9 via a carom or combo with maybe a bank thrown in for good measure. Often the key to winning is getting two or three soft touches in a row to leave a simple carom or combo to pot the nine.

A player making all the object balls in a single inning and winning with a shot on just the nine is virtually unheard of and would require the skill set of a master player but running a rack in 9ball is common. This game early outs are common and applauded. Having a single object ball and the 9 left on the table can be nerve racking especially for bangers. Whole new strategies are required to win in Texas One Shot and what you learn improves your decision making in the other games you play and love.

I can hardly wait for you to get an opportunity to play. What I really love is putting two guys on a table who have never played the game and see how excited they get as they figure what the game is all about. Most people can't wait to play a second game and it keeps getting better the more you play.
 
Yes, the game should be played thoroughly wuth the original rules first. I'm curious! Im not playing very often anymore, but I'll pitch it in my pool group.
 
Yes, the game should be played thoroughly wuth the original rules first. I'm curious! Im not playing very often anymore, but I'll pitch it in my pool group.
Thanks taking the time to check it out. The game lives up to my hype, I promise. And it is fun to watch too and not because slop counts but because it encourages players to take hero shots that you always wanted shoot and know are possible. Defense is not that easy but I love it when it works. The games makes you think and you know you can win in One Shot! I know your group will have very sound opinions and I'm excited to have the game vetted by the folks that know, live and breathe pool. I hope it is good enough you're willing to suffer the name.
 
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So today I had the opportunity to play for a couple of hours and we played Texas One Shot. It quickly became apparent that the regular rules are just too difficult. A game takes long and the odds of making the 9 are too low.

So we tweaked the rules by adding a scoring system and had a pretty fun evening playing with those rules! It felt like carom mixed with 9-ball and we enjoyed that. It wont be the next big thing, but it is worth a play.

The overall goal is to scores an X amount of points, like in straight pool. We choose 50 points.

Break: any ball potted on the break = 1 point and keep shooting. Dry break is end of turn. Golden break = 9 points.

Main rule: if you move the 9 you keep shooting.
- If you move the 9 with the cueball or object ball that is 'on' (lowest number) you get 1 point.
- If you pot a ball in a legal shot and move the 9 you get points equal to the number on the ball potted. (e.g. pot the 5 and move the 9 with a random ball = 5 points)
- If you pot the ball and it's the cueball that moves the 9, you get an extra +1 point. (e.g. pot the 5 and the cueball hits the 9 = 6 points)

On the 9 a player only gets one shot, then the other the player shoots and so on. The 9 = 9 points.

A foul is -2 points + BIH. Every consecutive foul is an additional - 2 until the player makes a legal shot. So a player can get -2, -4, -6, -8, etc if he keeps fouling without a legal shot in between.
 
interesting that you found it too difficult

since you changed all the rules
did you come up with a good name?
 
More Complicated Texas One Shot?

It is confusing because there is no reward in pocketing a ball, except the 9

Yeah, this seems weird. It's basically free game billiards except at the end you pocket one ball. There doesn't seem to be any incentive at all to pocket anything. If you pocket a few balls and miss the 9, you just freed up the table for the other guy. I think I would just play defensively and not pocket anything and just wait for the one right opportunity to sink the 9.

A player making all the object balls in a single inning and winning with a shot on just the nine is virtually unheard of

I would think so, as it's completely pointless because it's exactly the same as if you didn't pocket a single ball, unless I'm missing something?
 
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So today I had the opportunity to play for a couple of hours and we played Texas One Shot. It quickly became apparent that the regular rules are just too difficult. A game takes long and the odds of making the 9 are too low.

So we tweaked the rules by adding a scoring system and had a pretty fun evening playing with those rules! It felt like carom mixed with 9-ball and we enjoyed that. It wont be the next big thing, but it is worth a play.

The overall goal is to scores an X amount of points, like in straight pool. We choose 50 points.

Break: any ball potted on the break = 1 point and keep shooting. Dry break is end of turn. Golden break = 9 points.

Main rule: if you move the 9 you keep shooting.
- If you move the 9 with the cueball or object ball that is 'on' (lowest number) you get 1 point.
- If you pot a ball in a legal shot and move the 9 you get points equal to the number on the ball potted. (e.g. pot the 5 and move the 9 with a random ball = 5 points)
- If you pot the ball and it's the cueball that moves the 9, you get an extra +1 point. (e.g. pot the 5 and the cueball hits the 9 = 6 points)

On the 9 a player only gets one shot, then the other the player shoots and so on. The 9 = 9 points.

A foul is -2 points + BIH. Every consecutive foul is an additional - 2 until the player makes a legal shot. So a player can get -2, -4, -6, -8, etc if he keeps fouling without a legal shot in between.
Thank you for giving it a try. Most people simply want to play it again. You are the first to rewrite the rules after playing the game. Did you play a whole game or figure out better rules before playing the first game to the end? Counting points? That's math!
 
More Complicated Texas One Shot?



Yeah, this seems weird. It's basically free game billiards except at the end you pocket one ball. There doesn't seem to be any incentive at all to pocket anything. If you pocket a few balls and miss the 9, you just freed up the table for the other guy. I think I would just play defensively and not pocket anything and just wait for the one right opportunity to sink the 9.



I would think so, as it's completely pointless because it's exactly the same as if you didn't pocket a single ball,
 
interesting that you found it too difficult

since you changed all the rules
did you come up with a good name?
A name, not really. 9-carom? 9-billiard?

Yes shooting a carom of the lowest number into the 9 is challenging. Having to pot the 9 as well is mostly luck for 95% of the players, I think.
And there is no reward for potting a ball.

With this pointsystem there were a couple strategies:
- collect some single points with easy caroms
- collect serious points by potting higher value balls
- play snookers for accumulating fouls

It wont be next best thing, but it's fun to play.
 
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Thank you for giving it a try. Most people simply want to play it again. You are the first to rewrite the rules after playing the game. Did you play a whole game or figure out better rules before playing the first game to the end? Counting points? That's math!
We played one game. But it was borderline impossible to really implement some strategy. Say I hit the one, then the 9, and I can keep shooting. But the 1 ended up somewhere randomly (moving the 9 has priority) and I face the same challenge: a difficult carom to begin with and mostly hope to move 9, and forget about potting the 9.
 
A name, not really. 9-carom? 9-billiard?

Yes shooting a carom of the lowest number into the 9 is challenging. Having to pot the 9 as well is mostly luck for 95% of the players, I think.
And there is no reward for potting a ball.

With this pointsystem there were a couple strategies:
- collect some single points with easy caroms
- collect serious points by potting higher value balls
- play snookers for accumulating fouls

It wont be next best thing, but it's fun to play.
You are rewarded for any ball moving the 9 as long as you touch the lowest ball first.
A name, not really. 9-carom? 9-billiard?

Yes shooting a carom of the lowest number into the 9 is challenging. Having to pot the 9 as well is mostly luck for 95% of the players, I think.
And there is no reward for potting a ball.

With this pointsystem there were a couple strategies:
- collect some single points with easy caroms
- collect serious points by potting higher value balls
- play snookers for accumulating fouls

It wont be next best thing, but it's fun to play.
A good name is important.

In Texas One Shot the point is to set yourself up once you get the 9 moving. It would be nice if your opponent set you up for an easy out at the end of their turn but then they would not be much competition. Controlling three balls to the point you can pocket a specific ball takes some skill. Often just moving the 9 is difficult but if you can move it several times in one turn you have a better chance to set up a winning shot.Setting yourself up for a win is mainly skill. Bangers move the balls all over the table, players put the balls in place for a win!
 
I don't get it, do you have to sink all the other balls before the 9? As long as I hit the lowest ball first, can I pocket the 9 at any time? Your rules write up is the most confusing thing I've read in a long while.

Texas One Shot is based on 9-Ball but

Terrible idea. Just explain the rules. Saying it's based on 9 ball BUT is confusing. How much of it is based on 9-ball?

Pocketing the 9-ball on a legal shot wins the game. In Texas One Shot the only ball that is rewarded for going into a pocket is the 9-ball and victory is the reward. It is fine to pocket other balls and pocketing balls may or may not be to a players advantage but a player is only rewarded another shot for moving the 9-ball.

Why would you say, "legal shot" without defining what a "legal shot" is? Based on 9 ball rules? Or 9 ball rules with x exceptions? I have no idea if you're supposed to sink all the other balls first or what. "pocketing balls may or may not be to a players advantage" sounds like it doesn't.

If at anytime during a game the 9-ball is pocketed on a scratch or illegal shot the 9-ball is spotted on the foot spot

This implies that at any time during the game a "legal shot" can be made on the 9. Now what a "legal shot" is I don't know.
 
We played one game. But it was borderline impossible to really implement some strategy. Say I hit the one, then the 9, and I can keep shooting. But the 1 ended up somewhere randomly (moving the 9 has priority) and I face the same challenge: a difficult carom to begin with and mostly hope to move 9, and forget about potting the 9.

I'm glad you played a full game. It sounds like you found the challenge of controlling 3 balls each shot. It is the beauty of the game. If you can keep the three close to each other it helps. It is very easy to over run a shot and wind up with the 9 between the cue and object ball. The game sounds easy but in truth is very challenging.

Thank you for trying Texas One Shot and leaving feed back.
 
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