The ones who didnt qualify....

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sidepocketkid

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I have a question about the players at the qualifiers. ALL THE QUALIFIERS!

(Mostly about the "tour card qualifiers", but this applies to all of the qualifiers)

Weren't they all taking calculated risks based on the money they "may" have won if they recieved a spot on the tour?

I understand that a lot of them never stood a chance against champions like Ortmann or Pagulayan. However, they still put up the money and played taking their risks against them to get on the tour.

I want to know how different the qualifiers would have turned out, if they knew there was only ONE chance to win big! (VEGAS)

In essence, they were putting up $2000 + expenses FOR EACH QUALIFIER THEY PLAYED IN (ask Saez, many players played in multiple qualifiers for a tour card), with the chance of only winning $2000 in vegas!

Those odds suck!

Even though they didnt qualifiy, do they have a right to be in cluded in a class action suit based on the lies they were told, and the risks they took, ONLY BASED ON THOSE LIES???

-Scott

-very dissapointed the tour fell through! How great would this have been to watch and follow for years to come?!?!?
 
They were after a) that minimum $13k for 2006, b) the chance (if they did well enough in '06) for the $100k bandied about in 2007.

I doubt anyone was thinking "Ooh I'll throw up $2k+ so I can win $2k!" That's just bad math. :)
 
My Lawyer Says

Yep, they were induced to enter based on a false promise. So they have reliance damages including their entry fees and costs. They have no expectation damages for what they may have won in the future event(s) as do the two who qualfied. If fraud can be shown - that IPT and KT continued to solicit qualifier entries when he knew the payouts would be less than advertised - then they have punitive damages as well.

Of course, this is not to serve as legal advice and you should always seek the direct advice of an attorney, blah, blah, blah, etc. etc.
 
oneballeddie said:
Yep, they were induced to enter based on a false promise. So they have reliance damages including their entry fees and costs. They have no expectation damages for what they may have won in the future event(s) as do the two who qualfied. If fraud can be shown - that IPT and KT continued to solicit qualifier entries when he knew the payouts would be less than advertised - then they have punitive damages as well.

Of course, this is not to serve as legal advice and you should always seek the direct advice of an attorney, blah, blah, blah, etc. etc.
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So.....Let me get this straight.....If I were to match up with someone for...lets say $500.00 and lost....BUT....I found out that the other person did not have the means to pay the $500.00 if THEY had lost....AKA - They fired and air barrell at me... I would be able to sue for not only the $500.00that I lost, but I would also be able to sue for punitive damages as well????

HMMM........How do I contact this lawyer friend of yours...and does he work pro bono????;) ;)
 
If you paid $500, for the CHANCE, to play other people, for the CHANCE to play the person for $500, and that person was lieing and didnt have the money.. then thats where the issue is.

Just walking into a room and having an air barrel fired at you is different.

Winning or lossing the qualifier is not the issue, it is that they entered under the assumtion that they had the CHANCE to win x amount of dollars, which was a lie! Which they may have not paid the expeneses for if the money was not there!

Losing money to someone who fired an air barrel is completly different! You knew exactly what you had to gain or lose... basically.. even money!

I am doing a terrible job at explaining the differances, but they are quite different!
 
Can you sue for the $500?

BRKNRUN said:
So.....Let me get this straight.....If I were to match up with someone for...lets say $500.00 and lost....BUT....I found out that the other person did not have the means to pay the $500.00 if THEY had lost....AKA - They fired and air barrell at me... I would be able to sue for not only the $500.00that I lost, but I would also be able to sue for punitive damages as well????

HMMM........How do I contact this lawyer friend of yours...and does he work pro bono????;) ;)
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No, Goose, I didn't say that. He said you can sue for your actual damages incurred for attempting to win the air barrel. You cannot sue for your "expectation damages" i.e. the $500 unless you actually won. What are your actual damages to play? Well, some quarters, maybe a coke, etc. Now if you keeled over from shock when you found out you were playing for nothing - well, that's a whole 'nother matter.
 
Sidepocketkid...As a sponsor of one such Qualifier player, I have a vested interest in the answer to your question and am acquiring legal advice on the matter.

I won't decide what action to take until the nature of the players who are owed money comes to the surface. But just generically, if someone promises that there is gold at the end of the rainbow and takes money from people who decide to chase it...and there is no money there...a cause of action may well have arisen.

Regards,
Jim
 
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