The sport's reputation is tarnished...

hang-the-9

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http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/7923510?MSNHPHCP&GT1=39002
Doping found in a pro pool player.

I heard Ms. Manners is now canceling her article about the proper way to ask for a spot.

The funny thing is, this is the first time I have ever see billiards on a front page of a news site (msn.com). I would think a bigger headline would have been "pool players seen acting gracious, did not grope the waitress"
 
hang-the-9 said:
The funny thing is, this is the first time I have ever see billiards on a front page of a news site (msn.com). I would think a bigger headline would have been "pool players seen acting gracious, did not grope the waitress"

Could have been a slow News day, and the Editors were search for a hot story.
 
Here are some comments made about the article. Interesting to hear what the rest of the world thinks about pool.


sauce834
3/17/2008
5:19 PM (report inappropriate content)

if billiards is a sport than why isnt pro bowling covered by fox sports , shame fox sports shame !!!!

hungjury
3/17/2008
5:18 PM (report inappropriate content)

this is funny. Now the tour de france is different, I could see but pool? cmon

hungjury
3/17/2008
5:16 PM (report inappropriate content)

lol

sskkooll
3/17/2008
5:00 PM (report inappropriate content)

Doping in pool. What's next? Doping in the spelling bee.

JerseysBelle
3/17/2008
4:58 PM (report inappropriate content)

LMAO!! I can not believe this is a story. I HAD to read the comments, and they have made my day as I expected they would. Love it. Chess, YES, maybe they'll start bulking up. Oh my... the investigations and hearings. I personally think some of those daytime talk show personalities are suspect. They are way too hyped not to be using!!

KSN
3/17/2008
4:54 PM (report inappropriate content)

I'm thiking it has to do with ball's, this must be an issue with viagra abuse.

minnesota_joe
3/17/2008
4:53 PM (report inappropriate content)

i've played basketball under the influence of acid, marijuana, malt liquor and beer. does that mean it's not a sport?

MaddeesMom
3/17/2008
4:49 PM (report inappropriate content)

anything you can do while drinking a beer and leaning on a table is not a sport.

minnesota_joe
3/17/2008
4:41 PM (report inappropriate content)

d & d is a sport. again, when you play the live action version, it requires a nimble athlete to thwart the hobgoblins with thy 135 axe.

asmaxwell
3/17/2008
4:39 PM (report inappropriate content)

I guess you can say the guy just didn't trust his skill at the game. When your good...your good...You could beat your opponent with a tree limb. Enough said!

Barth827
3/17/2008
4:36 PM (report inappropriate content)

Yeah, playing pool is an endurance sport. Just like HGH could help you in a 18 hour Dungeons and Dragons tournement.

minnesota_joe
3/17/2008
4:34 PM (report inappropriate content)

different from steroids. it's about maintaing a consistent "stroke" (juvenile giggle), which requires muscular stamina to keep the cue on a level plane. this keeps the cue ball from jumping around unexpectedly as it would from undue pressure either in an upward or downward direction. read earlier posts from more educated, experienced players as to why this would be an advantage.

billiards, and pool, are really difficult games. as people have pointed out, you're not playing in your basement, just knocking balls around. basically, if you miss a shot or two in a rack, you lose that rack. just a bit of pressure there.

it requires a lot more hand-eye coordination than playstation. getting good at billiards takes years, but people can learn to beat playstation games in a month. it requires more physical control and agility. balance, consistency, and coordination, while playstation can be mastered by, say, a comic book guy.

born2golf
3/17/2008
4:33 PM (report inappropriate content)

I guess this means he'll be "strokin" his own cue for the next year...

danjdevils1
3/17/2008
4:26 PM (report inappropriate content)

Sport:'spo?rt.....Sport
is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively


that wraps it up...yep its a sport

jbrowning
3/17/2008
4:24 PM (report inappropriate content)

Huice: Also known as Juice :)

jbrowning
3/17/2008
4:23 PM (report inappropriate content)

Well..........ummmm..wow.
Billiards. He must have had an extremely heavy pool stick that he needed to huice up to use. Amazing.

minnesota_joe
3/17/2008
4:22 PM (report inappropriate content)

basketball joooooooooooones, i got a basketball jooooooooooooones....

bsktballjones
3/17/2008
4:22 PM (report inappropriate content)

If you consider golf a sport, then bowling is also. If only the running and jumping things count, I'm good with that also. I guess it's how you want to define it. I would definitly draw the line at poker.

fstdrvr2
3/17/2008
4:20 PM (report inappropriate content)

wtf? WHY would they even test for that?
More importantly, why would the officials even care?

bsktballjones
3/17/2008
4:16 PM (report inappropriate content)

Good point shrubbey, it sounded a lot better as I was typing it. I could have only sounded less lame if I mentioned that I once scored the winning touchdown in High School back in 77.


jbrowning
3/17/2008
4:23 PM (report inappropriate content)

Well..........ummmm..wow.
Billiards. He must have had an extremely heavy pool stick that he needed to huice up to use. Amazing.

minnesota_joe
3/17/2008
4:22 PM (report inappropriate content)

basketball joooooooooooones, i got a basketball jooooooooooooones....

bsktballjones
3/17/2008
4:22 PM (report inappropriate content)

If you consider golf a sport, then bowling is also. If only the running and jumping things count, I'm good with that also. I guess it's how you want to define it. I would definitly draw the line at poker.

fstdrvr2
3/17/2008
4:20 PM (report inappropriate content)

wtf? WHY would they even test for that?
More importantly, why would the officials even care?

bsktballjones
3/17/2008
4:16 PM (report inappropriate content)

Good point shrubbey, it sounded a lot better as I was typing it. I could have only sounded less lame if I mentioned that I once scored the winning touchdown in High School back in 77.

LowCal
3/17/2008
4:15 PM (report inappropriate content)

Again, if I cut down a tree in my yard am I a lumberjack? I can bowl too. Am I an athlete? I can swim, I can golf, I can drive, I can run blah, blah, blah. I am not an athlete, but I participate in athletic activities. Just because someone gets paid in a professional event doesn't make them an athlete or the event a sport. Is poker a sport?

y2kpony1968
3/17/2008
4:03 PM (report inappropriate content)

After reading some of these coments, I see their's a lot of stoopid people in hear.

shrubbey
3/17/2008
4:03 PM (report inappropriate content)

well, aren't you the little athlete

bsktballjones
3/17/2008
3:54 PM (report inappropriate content)

Off the subject, but people who say bowling isn't a sport I'm guessing can't bowl. I played basketball, tennis and volleyball on my college teams and at 50 am still good enough to make most high school basketball teams. But after 20 years of bowling I still haven;t come close to mastering it physically or mentally. I have a 225 average and have bowled a bunch of 300's but I couldn't carry a pro bowlers jock. If you consider golfing a sport you have to consider bowling also. I'm a scratch golfer; I shoot 68's all day on my home course but put me at Pebble Beach and I'd be lucky to shot 80. Same thing with bowling, any goof can shot 200; a lot of goofs can luck out and shot 300's but not in pro conditions. If my ring finger twitches what could have been a strike is a split, if I'm one thousands of a second to fast I'm dead. If I get nervous because this shot is for $50,000.00 you might as well forget it. You can by the way bowl tournaments every week for a lot more more money than the Pros bowl for. Sorry to go on, it just irritates me to hear comments about sports from people who don't have a clue.

LowCal
3/17/2008
3:53 PM (report inappropriate content)

jonnylarue - That crackback on farmerboy was an instant classic. Very well done.

AppalachianAmerican
3/17/2008
3:50 PM (report inappropriate content)

Serously though....Doping in billiards? Is EPO used to combat the cigarettes you puff while holding your stick and aiming at a set of b_lls so that your lungs don't collapse from all of the exhileration? And I thought only the hicks in Tennessee used EPO for hunting turkeys. Go figure.

AppalachianAmerican
3/17/2008
3:47 PM (report inappropriate content)

OFFICIAL MEMPHIS RENAMING CONTEST:

So far we have:

Mempi_s
Mempu_s
Memfuss
Memfizzle
LimpWrist...ooops... (describing T Tiger again...
scratch that)


We need some more submittals. The winner (person & name) will be announced immediately following the Tigers scheduled loss in the Tournament. The winner will receive their name & photo in the hall of shame, Memphis t-shirt & hat, gift certificate to Mr. BBQ, and have to parade around half court for five minutes while patting their head, rubbing their belly and singing the bababooey song.

Come on T Tiger, don't let me down. I want to see you win this prize.

biker32457
3/17/2008
3:47 PM (report inappropriate content)

What did the EPO do for him, help keep his stick up...

DreamGoddessLindsey
3/17/2008
3:41 PM (report inappropriate content)

I demand that PS3 gaming and D&D be classified as sports then. Those are the games I play. gamers demand being able to make a living playing a game like pool players!

AJAMathieu
3/17/2008
3:33 PM (report inappropriate content)

Doping in billiards? What's next? Doping in chess?

pops37
3/17/2008
3:31 PM (report inappropriate content)

Farmer boy, You are full of sh-t. 9000 acres where i'm from is worth at least 45,000,000 dollars. Where do you own? in Florida swampland.

d_day
3/17/2008
3:29 PM (report inappropriate content)

I never thought much of Buddy Hall anyway.

jonnylarue
3/17/2008
3:29 PM (report inappropriate content)

farmerboy-
not only did you misspell the word sense, but inappropriate and even the word too. You aren't very intelligent. Yes, this isn't the biggest news in the world, but I can see how there would be a little interest in it, since it is one of those weird stories you never thought you would read in "sports." I don't personally feel billiards, darts, nascar, bowling or the spelling bee (something you would know nothing about, but is covered on ESPN2) should be considered sports, but that is how they are covered in the media. You are a little over angry, maybe you should get back on the prozac (I bet you can spell that one) and let everyone else worry about themselves. It's obviously a big enough story to attract your attention. You spend the time to read the article, then probably another hour trying to find the letters on the keyboard while looking up words like "the" and "it" in the dictionary in order to make a comment about the article, why don't you volunteer somewhere since you are such a humanitarian (that's someone who cares about other people in society).
To whoever is having to read this slowly and aloud to farmerboy- this comment was not pointed at you.

JIM303
3/17/2008
3:29 PM (report inappropriate content)

gotta go have a good one everybody

JIM303
3/17/2008
3:28 PM (report inappropriate content)

Seen Earl walk into Vegas and offered everybody the 8 once Could have heard a pin drop but nobody stepped up. He was irratating tho.


luckyschmuck
3/17/2008
3:27 PM (report inappropriate content)

Maddragon, Jim, Cynthris- thanks to you guys for getting my back. Now I can scram.

Farmerboy- wow, man. Need to get a few more people out there with you -- I think you're getting stircrazy.

JIM303
3/17/2008
3:26 PM (report inappropriate content)

d day
Didnt know him well. I seen Earl toy with Buddy Hall when he was in his prime. Earl was baddest man on the planet for awhile. Effran got lucky or he would have owned him again in the world championship.

d_day
3/17/2008
3:23 PM (report inappropriate content)

Jim, did you ever see Keith in his prime? Keith could have given Strickland the 8 all day back then.
 
ajustit
3/17/2008
3:23 PM (report inappropriate content)

dont worry farmboy your allright even if you got no book learnin

cynthris
3/17/2008
3:23 PM (report inappropriate content)

hey Dragon, bet he hires mostly illegals so he doesn't have to pay "living" wages.

TheMadDragon
3/17/2008
3:21 PM (report inappropriate content)

Farmer- You may or may not have more money, but who really cares. I don't care how much money you paid me, I would not want to live or work on a farm. Happy farming...

ajustit
3/17/2008
3:20 PM (report inappropriate content)

drug them al before the games then its fair for all!! lol

LowCal
3/17/2008
3:20 PM (report inappropriate content)

farmerboy - "probibly" ???

JIM303
3/17/2008
3:20 PM (report inappropriate content)

d-day
HAHA Yea I run with Earl for several years as well as a kid named Topwater. There may have never been a better player in my opinion than Earl , thats pretty bold but also may never have been a bigger jerk.

d_day
3/17/2008
3:17 PM (report inappropriate content)

Oh boy! Strickland! He's almost as big an BLEEP as Mcready. The difference is Mcready can't run a rack to save his life these days.

LowCal
3/17/2008
3:17 PM (report inappropriate content)

farmerboy - I saw a Fox headline that Dice-K is making a start in Japan. Is that news?

JIM303
3/17/2008
3:16 PM (report inappropriate content)

D-day
Earl the Pearl

cynthris
3/17/2008
3:16 PM (report inappropriate content)

umm, farmerboy? It should read, "makes me have more money THAN you", not "then you".

FootballerSTC
3/17/2008
3:16 PM (report inappropriate content)

Billiards... it takes balls to play

LowCal
3/17/2008
3:15 PM (report inappropriate content)

farmerboy should be in charge of everything! Can you please tell me what else is or is not news.

kk123
3/17/2008
3:15 PM (report inappropriate content)

farmerboy... yer stupid

d_day
3/17/2008
3:15 PM (report inappropriate content)

Jim, you talkin about Mcready?

artfx
3/17/2008
3:15 PM (report inappropriate content)

Farmers are theonly people in the world who buys retail and sells whoesale. Now how smart is that ?

cynthris
3/17/2008
3:14 PM (report inappropriate content)

lol farmerboy!! You have just let everyone on here wonder if all "farmers" are as illiterate as you seem to be. You have no sense of spelling, much less grammar. And it appears you have no desire to even want to spell correctly, and then seem to "appear" to have some education, much less any kind of sense.

As far as this "newsbreak", well, like some who have posted, try being in a billiards tourney sometime, it can take a lot out of a person. Most competetive sports do, whether it requires physical endurance and/or mental concentration.

JIM303
3/17/2008
3:13 PM (report inappropriate content)

Well....I've never taken more than over the counter stimulants and some alcohol to try and stay sharp but i've seen some pretty good players (pro) who actually cut lines on the side of tables during 1-3 day money matches. Know one who may have never played a straight game in his life from the time I knew him till he was considered best in the world. He became so focused he was untouchable on a pool table.


farmerboy1379
3/17/2008
3:13 PM (report inappropriate content)

D DAY YOU ARE THE SMARTEST PERSON ON HERE AND YOU ARE 100% RIGHT

FootballerSTC
3/17/2008
3:11 PM (report inappropriate content)

Here here d day, well said

farmerboy1379
3/17/2008
3:11 PM (report inappropriate content)

MAD DRAGON JUST BECAUSE I OWN AND RUN A 9000 ACRE FARM DOESN'T MAKE ME STUPID IT MAKES ME HAVE MORE MONEY THEN YOU "I GARONTEE IT" HAHA ON YOU.

earl069
3/17/2008
3:11 PM (report inappropriate content)

pimpgod,

They do drug horses!!! I have never shot pool of billards without a good bottle next to me.

d_day
3/17/2008
3:10 PM (report inappropriate content)

Wow farmer boy, real intelligent there. You must always remember, each person decides what is and what is not important for theemselves. It is Fox's job only to provide the content. It is up to each of us to decide if we need to see it. Next time, don't click on something that says Billiards.

farmerboy1379
3/17/2008
3:08 PM (report inappropriate content)

NONE OF YOU GET THE WHOLE PICTURE. THIS IS NOT NEWS IT IS GARBAGE

FootballerSTC
3/17/2008
3:08 PM (report inappropriate content)

Wow farmerboy, anger issues? So basically you are saying when a plane crashes (as awful as it is, my prayers go out to the families) no other stories should be reported?

TheMadDragon
3/17/2008
3:07 PM (report inappropriate content)

Wow, will it ever end. I once played in a tourney that lasted ten days. I only made it seven and was spent. Never thought about taking anything and never will...

Luckyschmuck- You don't really expect someone with a 'farmer' name to know how to spell, do you?

farmerboy1379
3/17/2008
3:06 PM (report inappropriate content)

you are right schumck i did spellsense incorrectly but if you were as upset about this article as any intelligent person would be you would understand, but you are probiblyjust as "smart" as the person who thought this "news" is more important than say any news in the REAL WORLD. MAYBE YOU SHOULD TELL THE FAMILIES OF THE PEOPLE WHO DIED IN THE CRANE CRASH IN NYC THAT SOME BLEEP IN GERMANY WHO GOT CAUGHT DOPING IS MORE IMPORTANT "NEWS" THAN THEM. YOU NEED TO GROW UP.

artfx
3/17/2008
3:06 PM (report inappropriate content)

wanna test sumthin...test the people on welfare before they give them my hard earned money !!

gtd
3/17/2008
3:05 PM (report inappropriate content)

Farmerboy must be the dumbest person on the planet. Good going, keep your head in the sand and pretend everyone agrees with you, oh, you already have, else you'd show even the slightest sign of intelligence. I like it how you preemptively say anyone that doesn't agree with you has a "little brain". What a loser. .

d_day
3/17/2008
3:04 PM (report inappropriate content)

I agree, for the most part, that drug use in pool really has little affect on the outcome of a match. Aside from stimulants, I just don't see where there is any advantage to be gained. But the fact is, taking these substances IS against the rules. Herr Buescher has had his title stripped and been suspended in accordance with the rules. What's the problem?

Also, for waldodog1, this is not pool. This is carom billiards, played on a 5 foot by 10 foot table with no pockets and only 3 balls. It is in my opinion the most difficult of all cue sports.

JIM303
3/17/2008
3:03 PM (report inappropriate content)

HAHAHA Pool isnt a sport! Every dam board there are those who say GOLF/NASCAR/BILLIARDS/ECT
isnt a sport. It's not a sport if you cant do it I guess.

luckyschmuck
3/17/2008
3:02 PM (report inappropriate content)

JIM- I'm right with you.

As for these other comments, you guys should just stick to the baseball articles.

JIM303
3/17/2008
2:59 PM (report inappropriate content)

Well said lucky
Most people have no clue the difference between bar room pool and professional billiards. I have been in tournaments that have lasted 4-5 days. Hardest part for me is getting up for a match , cooling down afterwards and then couple hrs later get back up mentally. It's tougher than you would imagine unless your just there to BLEEP balls around the table.

DreamGoddessLindsey
3/17/2008
2:57 PM (report inappropriate content)

This is stupid. Poo//Billiards isn't even a "sport", there is no physical factor involved. It's about as much sport as my PS3. Heh. Doping in pool, that's ridiculous.

luckyschmuck
3/17/2008
2:56 PM (report inappropriate content)

farmerboy-

if you can't spell the word "sense", chances are you don't have any

luckyschmuck
3/17/2008
2:55 PM (report inappropriate content)

waldo-
it's not hard if you're hanging out with your friends drinking beer and occasionally take a whack at the little white ball with the wooden stick. Try playing in a tourney with real pressure for six or eight hours and see if you don't get tired.

You know, snowboarding isn't that tough, either. You just stand on the board and go down the hill -- how much endurance does that require? Lol.

pimpgod
3/17/2008
2:54 PM (report inappropriate content)

what would be next "horse racing"

farmerboy1379
3/17/2008
2:53 PM (report inappropriate content)

i am appauled. you call this news. this is not news it is garbage, not important to anybody in thier right mind. if FOXNEWS can't find real news they slap this kind of inappropreate, imature, nonsencical, important to only the person it happened to style "news" on the newscast. it is a digrace to the human race. i only wish someone with some COMMON SENCE over there had something to say. in conclusion FOXNEWS, FOXSPORTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE FOX RELATED SHOULD BE STRICKEN FROM HISTORY AND BANNED FROM EARTH. any problems with my comment please just keep them to yourself and if that is to much for your little brain just don't look, don't read, don't care, shut off your computer and read a book or go to a movie.


pimpgod
3/17/2008
2:52 PM (report inappropriate content)

i use to play competive pool and some things are right it dose take alot of endurance and i can not uderstand why the peolpe would juice and try to get away with it.they should take his titles away and strip him of everything

luckyschmuck
3/17/2008
2:52 PM (report inappropriate content)

It's like saying NASCAR isn't draining because all you do is drive a car. Right on.

waldodog1
3/17/2008
2:50 PM (report inappropriate content)

lucky, you are a schmuck, it is POOL, how hard is it to hit the ball soft, hard, bend backward to use the bridge? IT IS POOL,

luckyschmuck
3/17/2008
2:48 PM (report inappropriate content)

I like all the comments about "the guys who play pool in my neighborhood" and "when I play pool." We're talking about competitive billiards. If you haven't played, you know nothing about the kind of endurance it takes to make it through a tournament. People say this article is unimportant, or that it's a waste of time -- then why did you read it and comment on it. Reading your comment -- there's the real waste of time.

waldodog1
3/17/2008
2:46 PM (report inappropriate content)

So for poker players, would the doping ban include Botox, that way they can't have their face frozen, and avoid the "tell"

julileav
3/17/2008
2:44 PM (report inappropriate content)

who the hell cares....it is pool for god sakes. You should be a little high just to sit through one of the "matches". IS there nothing else of importance going on in the world right now?!?!?

SarasotaSlammer
3/17/2008
2:35 PM (report inappropriate content)

I guess high endurance and huge biceps will improve a billiards player's performance? I suppose they also test their chess and poker champions?

DieHardBucsFan4
3/17/2008
2:35 PM (report inappropriate content)

Do you think all the Vegas poker players are doped? They do play long days. Sitting there making a poker face takes hard work...

SarasotaSlammer
3/17/2008
2:34 PM (report inappropriate content)

I guess high endorance and huge bicepts will inprove a billiards players performance? I suppose they also test their chess and poker champions?

tajirimd
3/17/2008
2:34 PM (report inappropriate content)

My bad on the misspell. I was typing too fast. Maybe it's the performace enhancers I took.

GeauxSaints77
3/17/2008
2:33 PM (report inappropriate content)

I'm just surprised they have drug testing in billiards...
other than a breathalyzer.

nick112147
3/17/2008
2:32 PM (report inappropriate content)

It is pool. But then again I guess he needs that extra oxygen absorbtion rate to compete in such a physically demanding sport!

Please...give me a break, the people playing pool at the bar near my house are probably the most out of shape people on this rock we call Earth, and you know what, they could probably beat with guy with one arm tied behind their back. That is if we could get their arm to move that far back, they are about as wide as they are tall.

tajirimd
3/17/2008
2:32 PM (report inappropriate content)

Wait thats not positive at all!

KungFool
3/17/2008
2:31 PM (report inappropriate content)

The word is asterisk, not asterik!

What's next - steroids in tiddly-winks?
 
tajirimd
3/17/2008
2:31 PM (report inappropriate content)

Seriiously?! Next thing you know there is going to be tests on actors. And Congress will be after them saying that "due to performance enhancing drugs, Forrest Whitaker one the Best actor award" Maybe he should have an asterik next to his name on the list of Oscar Winners. This is becoming a joke.

But on a positive note...Sports will be alot more boring without performace enhancing drugs.

Ecnar
3/17/2008
2:30 PM (report inappropriate content)

bmose asked how doping would help. With increased blood oxygen capacity, the heart doesn't have to work as hard to transport blood to the tissues, hence a lower heart rate. The body is at it's stillest point in between heart beats and if you can extend the amount of time between heartbeats, it can improve your accuracy by the slightest fraction, which is what athletes are trying to achieve. Marksmen have been doing this for years to increase the time between heartbeats to fire off their shots for better accuracy, but usually by using an antihypertensive drug in a class called beta blockers, which slow the heartrate down.

LowCal
3/17/2008
2:29 PM (report inappropriate content)

Hey dingo- you "spitzer" those depends quite a bit.

wildjackle
3/17/2008
2:27 PM (report inappropriate content)

test judges and congressmen and women

Lazariff
3/17/2008
2:26 PM (report inappropriate content)

This has gone to far.What's next a big write up on Doping in a staring contest.It pool.These people that are complaining about this, are probably that took Sat. morning cartoon away from kids because they there to violent.Get a life....

wildjackle
3/17/2008
2:26 PM (report inappropriate content)

we need to test congressmen and judges, they


squanto
3/17/2008
2:23 PM (report inappropriate content)

headedfor70 - I did, lost my tail and my money. It didnt take the roids to make me want to bash my stick into the other guy. I guess I was the only one to blame. Shame on me for thinking that way.

wildjackle
3/17/2008
2:23 PM (report inappropriate content)

congressmen need to be tested first

headedfor70
3/17/2008
2:21 PM (report inappropriate content)

Squanto, try playing for 24 hours straight & see how well your playing. A little "pick me up" can make a huge difference

squanto
3/17/2008
2:20 PM (report inappropriate content)

why you gotta brag about a 300. dont be so self-righteous

JIM303
3/17/2008
2:20 PM (report inappropriate content)

Not sure about EPO but you might want to check the top pocket on Strickland's cue case. It's all about focus. I always drink 1-2 beers before every match because 1. It calms my nerves and 2. Because thats what my body is used to. Most learn from shooting in bars in tournaments , and drinking. A lot of guys do this and then come tournament time try to do it without alcohol....it's different and anything different distracts. It slows me down and I get in a rythem. Many guys will go the other way and get so "up" that there zero'd in on whats only in front of them. see above mentioned


Barbiy1
3/17/2008
2:19 PM (report inappropriate content)

I'd like to know what substance it is exactly that he was trying to mask because I have a top shooter coming up next month and would LOVE to have the enhanced ability to finally win it! OMG ... NOW has this doping baloney gone too far? What's next, people? Will we be drug testing for the National Spelling Bee??

Gdaddyswinginit
3/17/2008
2:18 PM (report inappropriate content)

wow...doping in pool,go figure....i did about 5c. worth of brown T when i was a teenager and ran eight racks in a row of 8ball, bowled a 300 game high on acid when i was 23 (purple microdot)...but steroids to shoot pool...cmon that must be 1 pansy of a pool player...lol..and last week bowled another 300 game high on life...thats the 1 i,ll allways remember

SD_Buc_1
3/17/2008
2:17 PM (report inappropriate content)

Let all the pros take roids if they want. Bigger, faster, stronger is what we want to see. Maybe get to watch their hearts blow out of their chests or livers drop out their BLEEP . Wold be good TV

Dingoatemybaby
3/17/2008
2:17 PM (report inappropriate content)

they bleep titicaca without the caca?
or icaca?

squanto
3/17/2008
2:17 PM (report inappropriate content)

I dont know how you can shoot pool juiced anyway. My nerves are shot when it comes down to the 9 ball. The last think I need is to go into a roid rage and smash my cue into my opponants head. Actually, that would make good tv...

Dingoatemybaby
3/17/2008
2:16 PM (report inappropriate content)

ajustit
Short for
"a jus" :French for with juice
"BLEEP " :hope you know that one
a just BLEEP ?
lactating mamalian protuberances?
A breast that espouses truth and justice?
I digress...

bmose
3/17/2008
2:16 PM (report inappropriate content)

EPO is what the body produces increase red blood cell production. That allows the athlete to transport more blood gases. I fail to see how this would help a billiards player. He really cant get 'jacked' on EPO... This is BS

headedfor70
3/17/2008
2:14 PM (report inappropriate content)

Take it from somebody who spent years in the pool hall, the BLEEP they're calling "dope" is minor league. I watched a guy have a heart attack in the pool hall on his 3rd day of a marathon session. The drug of choice back then was meth.

ajustit
3/17/2008
2:13 PM (report inappropriate content)

i read that hard drinking was bad for you so starting tomorrow no more reading!

dense81
3/17/2008
2:13 PM (report inappropriate content)

earl54: i totally agree about Hillary. Ask any Canadian if they think there health care system is great. Why do people think it's going to be "free healthcare" for everyone. don't you people know that the Canadians get taxed like 60%. Forget that. I would rather pay for it myself, rather than let the Gov. handle it.

Deywalker
3/17/2008
2:12 PM (report inappropriate content)

If doping can help a pool player, then there is nothing it can't help you with. Pool is about focus, not endurance. You don't get tired from standing and sitting, and holding a one lbs cue. This article is a waste of space, and I now feel like I wasted 2 minutes of my day reading it, and another 2 minutes responding to it.

Dingoatemybaby
3/17/2008
2:12 PM (report inappropriate content)

spitzered; sue me

Dingoatemybaby
3/17/2008
2:11 PM (report inappropriate content)

"I spizered in my depends when I heard what Earl54 had to say!"
John McCain, Face the Nation, March 16, 2008

holland72202
3/17/2008
2:09 PM (report inappropriate content)

time to take the shots.... man, i can drink beer all day and look like The Rock... I am in... so what about the side effects...tiny balls... never use them now any way...lol... liver damage.. doubt it, i pound my liver every day for decades with booze and lipitor and the tests say it is fine... hey, lets all get pumped up on roids and kick some BLEEP at the local bar...

Earl54
3/17/2008
2:07 PM (report inappropriate content)

I thought pool was about finess more than brut force. Hillarys health care plan is as flawed as her marriage.


dense81
3/17/2008
2:06 PM (report inappropriate content)

it's interesting to think about though, you gotta admit. In this day and age if your dominating your sport, you must be doing something unethical. I.E. Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong, Roger Clemens. Is Tiger really that good or does he use performance enhancers

ajustit
3/17/2008
2:06 PM (report inappropriate content)

dense
bonds put on 50lbs of mass in 2 years....lol

ajustit
3/17/2008
2:05 PM (report inappropriate content)

i agree fatigue is a factor ,but steroids wont keep your focus or shot consistent nor help your decision making.

globalobserver
3/17/2008
2:02 PM (report inappropriate content)

Could be something to it.

I shoot pool better after about two beers. Four beers and people start taking my money!

dense81
3/17/2008
2:02 PM (report inappropriate content)

ajustit: that's what i have been saying about Barry but no one is buying it.

ajustit
3/17/2008
2:01 PM (report inappropriate content)

remember tiger was almost pubescent when he started the tour and hes now married and living the good life,its normal to get slightly bigger as you mature....lol

luckyschmuck
3/17/2008
2:00 PM (report inappropriate content)

91liberator-

Anything that boosts your endurance is going to give an athlete an unfair advantage. Fatigue is a major factor in creating inconsistency in a pool player's stroke. Try shooting game after game of high-pressure billiards and see if you don't agree.

dense81
3/17/2008
1:59 PM (report inappropriate content)

then how come Tiger has put on 30 pounds of muscle?

Shindig
3/17/2008
1:59 PM (report inappropriate content)

I think the doping shrinks the pool balls and makes them easier to sink in the pockets

dense81
3/17/2008
1:58 PM (report inappropriate content)

i heard someone say that steroids makes your eye muscles bigger and better and that's why Barry can hit so many hr's. Maybe it's true, maybe taking steroids enables you to see the angles better. I don't know, i'm at a loss for words

ajustit
3/17/2008
1:57 PM (report inappropriate content)

muscle doesnt make a better golfer actually the looser and leaner you are the better.

ajustit
3/17/2008
1:55 PM (report inappropriate content)

would you enter a tournament while drinking?

dense81
3/17/2008
1:55 PM (report inappropriate content)

how come nobody is talking about the doping scandal in golf. Tiger Woods has put on 30 pounds of muscle since he came into the PGA and he's playing better than ever. does golf have a drug testing policy?

91liberator
3/17/2008
1:51 PM (report inappropriate content)

You guys just got had! Taken to the fraud cleaners. What kind of an advantage does doping give a billiards player?

DAmor
3/17/2008
1:51 PM (report inappropriate content)

obviously, the guy didn't think he had enough balls in the right pockets to resort to that...
 
ajustit
3/17/2008
1:50 PM (report inappropriate content)

i wish someone would come up with a work enhancing drug so the people under me would do some thing.as for pool theres nothing you could take to improve your preformance except shoot well. i dont think any drug would give you an advantage over 8 hrs sleep and practice.

broadside
3/17/2008
1:50 PM (report inappropriate content)

Well, I must bid you all goodbye for now. May your sticks shoot straight and your balls roll true.

love-french-hotties
3/17/2008
1:48 PM (report inappropriate content)

and football is better than soccer!

broadside
3/17/2008
1:47 PM (report inappropriate content)

Thanks, I am still laughing. It's just so wrong.

broadside
3/17/2008
1:45 PM (report inappropriate content)

fuggitup:
Your comeback could be the feel-good story of the year.

ProudLeo
3/17/2008
1:45 PM (report inappropriate content)

Do any of you actually read the entire story? It says he took a masking agent but did not get it approved. It isn't HGH OR STEROIDS. There are supplements that are on the ban list that you cannot take. Does not mean he was taking the masking agent to help play pool better. What a bunch of M O R O N S!!

mcc99
3/17/2008
1:43 PM (report inappropriate content)

As each day passes it seems the news becomes more and more unbelievable. But here it is: Bear Sterns collapses, Dina McGreevy gets off on BLEEP guys and now this!!!

I can't stand it. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Or both. At once.

meekas
3/17/2008
1:42 PM (report inappropriate content)

carom billiards is for BLEEP

tittiesnbeer80
3/17/2008
1:41 PM (report inappropriate content)

that was stupid

mr_slappy
3/17/2008
1:41 PM (report inappropriate content)

I suppose the guy thought he didnt break hard enough

ProudLeo
3/17/2008
1:41 PM (report inappropriate content)

1950 all that needs to be said to you is that you need two things:(1) Your mother to suspend your computer privileges for a year at least and (2) Get a brain scan real fast because you are near brain dead!!

JerseyDave
3/17/2008
1:41 PM (report inappropriate content)

Doping for POOL? Yeah the "Checkers HGH scandal" poster is right, maybe BALCO scandals will extend to Tiddly winks next. What a joke! All Billiards players shouldn't need that stuff ofr standing around a pool table all day. Like that Lee woman who does womens' billiards, pure as th emountain drifted snow. Sigh.

broadside
3/17/2008
1:41 PM (report inappropriate content)

Fuggitup:
I can't speak for everyone, but I look forward to your return to the seeded circle. Good luck my friend. You've been a worth adversary.

mr_slappy
3/17/2008
1:40 PM (report inappropriate content)

i'd love to inject the black widow with juice, but it wouldnt have anything to do with HGH or Steroids. just man bone and buns a slapping

broadside
3/17/2008
1:38 PM (report inappropriate content)

Sounds Disgusting. LOL Sounds like Family Channel material to me.

redrobsock
3/17/2008
1:37 PM (report inappropriate content)

ahahah- broadside -- i could see 10-15 guys hanging out a the pool table playing with there stick trying to get with the "widow" !! i'd probably give it a shot! i have a nasty bank shot!! hahah
.

broadside
3/17/2008
1:35 PM (report inappropriate content)

I think 'Juicing The Black Widow' would make a good reality TV show.

Bartgee
3/17/2008
1:34 PM (report inappropriate content)

The Black Widow may have Breast Enhancements - that's a total violation of the rules! Guys can't compete with that!

broadside
3/17/2008
1:34 PM (report inappropriate content)

I just read that Clemens has had his pool table confiscated by the Feds. Uh Oh Rocket, looks like you took one too many in the side pocket...not sure what that means actually, but it sounded good in my head.

hawg60
3/17/2008
1:33 PM (report inappropriate content)

I hozey seconds

redrobsock
3/17/2008
1:29 PM (report inappropriate content)

I can't speak for anyone else but i would love to "juice" that "black widow" chic!

gmail
3/17/2008
1:29 PM (report inappropriate content)

smokey70 ....STOP READING MY MIND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1950
3/17/2008
1:28 PM (report inappropriate content)

ARE YOU KIDDING??????????


How hard up do you have to be if a POOL PLAYER shoots the juice?????

Check the picture and see if HE was (not) at Canseco's party, too...

Bolt Upright
3/17/2008
1:28 PM (report inappropriate content)

Just joking earlier about the porn industry. But come (lol) to think of it, sex has got to be the most popular activity. Should we not demand that our hereos and heroines of the silver screen be free of performance and form enhancing substances? It would be an outrage if someone couldn't even get into the industry unless he's corkin' the bat!

dennisdale
3/17/2008
1:27 PM (report inappropriate content)

Wait a minute. They better test those girl scouts selling cookies. I'm pretty sure she shorted me $.25. Sugar high?


LowCal
3/17/2008
1:25 PM (report inappropriate content)

Is that Black Widow chick juiced too?

gmail
3/17/2008
1:25 PM (report inappropriate content)

FLASH !!!!

that woman who won the 2005 World Series of Poker was on HGH , she will go before a congerssional hearing so the rest o0f the issues congress has to deal with , economy healthcare crime violence drug trafficing , global warming , 120 dollar barrels of oil and terrorism will have to wait , but before they talk to this chick there gonna vote themselves a raise

MORE AS DETAILS BECOME AVAILABLE

smokey70
3/17/2008
1:25 PM (report inappropriate content)

next thing you know, somebody is going to lose their poker playing privlage due to doping in POKER

broadside
3/17/2008
1:24 PM (report inappropriate content)

Probably got tired of having the BLEEP kicked out of him by his wife(they're big'uns over there you know). Ahhhh, the pressure must've been killing him.

LowCal
3/17/2008
1:24 PM (report inappropriate content)

I think the guy who beat me in my last 'Texas Hold Em' tournament was juiced.

beaton82
3/17/2008
1:24 PM (report inappropriate content)

Doping in billards. For all of you really slow people out there, billards is a game, not a sport! There fore, who gives a rats tail!!!!!GET REAL!!!!!

smokey70
3/17/2008
1:23 PM (report inappropriate content)

you have got to be kidding me, EPO in the game of billards, give me a break

broadside
3/17/2008
1:22 PM (report inappropriate content)

That's it. No more pool for me. It's Air Hockey from here on out. My kids will not grow up playing a tarnished sport any longer!!!

LorenzoV
3/17/2008
1:20 PM (report inappropriate content)

gee pool players......its called RED BULL :)

gerb89
3/17/2008
1:19 PM (report inappropriate content)

Felts, how can you think that Lance was on some sort of performance enhancing drug? He was the most tested individual on the planet! And never came back with a positive. If you believe that just beause he dominanted his sport for so long that he has to be on something, then Tiger woods is doping too.

Bolt Upright
3/17/2008
1:19 PM (report inappropriate content)

Congress needs to start an investigation into the use of Viagra and Silicone in the porn industry. America demands it!

beaton82
3/17/2008
1:18 PM (report inappropriate content)

Doping in billards, uh for you slow people out there,billards is a game, not a sport. There fore, who gives a rats tail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

broadside
3/17/2008
1:17 PM (report inappropriate content)

Damn, I just thought about it...Bonds and Clemens can't even shoot pool now.

broadside
3/17/2008
1:14 PM (report inappropriate content)

That's alright, Minnesota Fats ate a lot of fried food, which added pounds of fat for energy reserve. I think the playing field is pretty even then.

broadside
3/17/2008
1:10 PM (report inappropriate content)

Darters, now there's a segment that needs immediate testing. The scandal of the century.

9ballwizzz
3/17/2008
1:10 PM (report inappropriate content)

Well said Eric..... as a pool player I can tell you it is a HUGE advantage after playing the 30th rack or playing in an 18+ hour tournament!!!

Dalysmyman
3/17/2008
1:08 PM (report inappropriate content)

Carom billiards, eh? I'll bet this rocks the bar sports scene, over there. Those party animals. Over here, all we ever do is snort
the chalk, get drunker, and shoot the lights out. Look out darters, youre next.

MtEHawks24
3/17/2008
1:06 PM (report inappropriate content)

Eric11, HGH does make your bones in general bigger, that includes your skull (head for people like you). HGH is a supplement for the boost your body sees during puberty, when your bones and muscles grow bigger (along with everything else). You are right it is about endurance, not strength, but please don't act like billiards is a legit endurance sport, that is just upsetting. P.S.- Clinton is the solution to your healthcare needs.

DBucs
3/17/2008
1:05 PM (report inappropriate content)

Please help me to understand why this is news? Are we running out of real news to report? Futhermore, who cares...

broadside
3/17/2008
1:04 PM (report inappropriate content)

Holy BLEEP !! Aside from reading that Bon Jovi and Springsteen are entering some Rock Star Curling competition, this is the funniest thing I've read in a long time. My eyes are still watering from the tears of laughter. How awful for that guy, what'll he do for a living for the next year??? Serve beer at Oktoberfest??

SEC1
3/17/2008
1:02 PM (report inappropriate content)

Wow...look out poker players, your royal flush might be tainted!! S T U P I D...

EricHi11
3/17/2008
1:01 PM (report inappropriate content)

It's an advantage if you're not tired by the 30th rack you've played in a tournament. Have you ever played tournament billiards? It's a grind. When are people going to learn that the advantage of juicing or chemical boosting is ENDURANCE and recouperative ability. You sheep are always associating it with strength. Yep, and HGH makes your head bigger and testosterone makes your BLEEP smaller. Riiiiiight. And Hillary Clinton will solve your healthcare issues, lol. Keep believing everything your fkng friends tell you, idiotic sheep.

MetsAngelsSeries
3/17/2008
1:00 PM (report inappropriate content)

In a related story. This years spelling bee champ got popped with spelling under the influence of jujubees and Capri Sun. His 3rd place finish will be stripped away.

diegopher
3/17/2008
12:59 PM (report inappropriate content)

Without all these commitees to do these ridiculous investigations, there would be a lot of politicians sons and daughters out of work.

It's just another reason to spend money.

What would we do without them?

My God, there would be pandemonium in the streets if we didn't regulate the use of drugs in billiards!

Isn't it obvious?

inshape
3/17/2008
12:59 PM (report inappropriate content)

Druggies here, Druggies there, Druggies Druggies everywhere!

rdenig
3/17/2008
12:58 PM (report inappropriate content)

Can you freakin believe that someone would try to get away with this? I guess they aren't playing pool drinking a few beers!

BigD6063
3/17/2008
12:57 PM (report inappropriate content)

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are we so sorry a race of people that we cry about everything . Whats next testing for dope in sex?

felts
3/17/2008
12:56 PM (report inappropriate content)

Thats why I am not winnig any games. No Dope. Just think how good Lance must be at Billiards.

scout@night
3/17/2008
12:56 PM (report inappropriate content)

wow, this is scary. what if they start testing, bingo, marbles and horseshoes?? this could be big stuff guys,LOL!

The_Man
3/17/2008
12:54 PM (report inappropriate content)

Un...f'ing...believable. Who cares? It's not giving these players an advantage in ANY way. Jesus CHRIST!

maxboy
3/17/2008
12:51 PM (report inappropriate content)

Enough is enough...Please explain why dpoing in billiards is an advantage.

GBTradition
3/17/2008
12:50 PM (report inappropriate content)

Everybody panic....Next thing they will be test is Chess.

mosman
3/17/2008
12:49 PM (report inappropriate content)

FIRST! So if you want to put the balls in your pockets, you can't have any dope in your blood?

sreber22x
3/17/2008
12:48 PM (report inappropriate content)

Can someone please explain to me WHY they are testing in the first place?
 
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