"the trilogy"

iconcuecom said:
i dont get your point?



dont worry joe and jimbo do, you werent here when all this got started, and the original thread that started it got deleted. but maybee if you search the posts of some of the "skips in progress" you will get an idea.


i love all 3 cues just a little jelous theyr not mine.
those are 3 great makers!!!
 
UGOTDA7 said:
The market will bear what it will bear, supply and demand, simple as that. It isn't rocket science.

I just checked my junk, I'm so ashamed of the two Herceks, the Tascarella, the Schick, the Lambros, the two Gilberts, the Scruggs, among others. Damn, I just shed a tear, how will I be able to go on?

And to be clear, you do not do what is right for them, but it does sounds so noble though. You do what is right by YOU. Feel free to keep kidding yourself if you like, it makes for some interesting, if not comical discussion.
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Can you throw a little of your junk my way... I'm frantically saving up to have just a few of what you have... hehehe. You surely have nice cues.
 
iconcuecom said:
" the trilogy " from the dunning collection :cool:
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" the trilogy " from the dunning collection :cool:

Have you hit with all 3 of the cues? If you have, which one would be your pick if you'd have to choose a player from amongst the 3?
 
UGOTDA7 said:
The market will bear what it will bear, supply and demand, simple as that. It isn't rocket science.

I just checked my junk, I'm so ashamed of the two Herceks, the Tascarella, the Schick, the Lambros, the two Gilberts, the Scruggs, among others. Damn, I just shed a tear, how will I be able to go on?

And to be clear, you do not do what is right for them, but it does sounds so noble though. You do what is right by YOU. Feel free to keep kidding yourself if you like, it makes for some interesting, if not comical discussion.

No the market is the market. If you cannot sell your new cues at the retail price within 10% then the problem is with yourself, or the cuemakers price.
Holding and selling for retail value is bad for the cuemaker, your right its comical discussion. Why don't you ask all the cuemakers on the forum if they would rather have their cues sold for retail OR traded for half of retail on someone elses cue. So I do whats right for ME and the cuemaker.

Joe
 
classiccues said:
No the market is the market. If you cannot sell your new cues at the retail price within 10% then the problem is with yourself, or the cuemakers price.
Holding and selling for retail value is bad for the cuemaker, your right its comical discussion. Why don't you ask all the cuemakers on the forum if they would rather have their cues sold for retail OR traded for half of retail on someone elses cue. So I do whats right for ME and the cuemaker.

Joe

And just how do you think a cue maker gets his "retail" price? Is there some pricing guide only they know about? Do they ask the magic 8-ball what they should price their cues at?

I'm just guessing here and I could be way off base, but I suspect that most cue makers have a desire to make money. As such, in their own self interest, cue makers price their cues at the highest level possible. Furthermore, they also would prefer that overall cue community pricing stay as inflated as possible, this will result in more money in their pockets.

Are you aware of how the pricing of cues came about with the first Blue Book of Pool Cues? It just might have something to do with the principle explained in the preceding paragraph, but then again, maybe I'm just way off base.

And of course they would all prefer if their cues sold at "retail" prices, as would anybody selling anything. I hope this isn't a surprise to anybody reading this. I'm not even sure why you felt the need to mention this, maybe it was an attempt to sound smart and enlightened, if so, you failed miserably.

Regardless of what the "retail" price is, reality is reality. As I said earlier--the market will bear what it will bear, supply and demand, simple as that.
 
UGOTDA7 said:
And just how do you think a cue maker gets his "retail" price? Is there some pricing guide only they know about? Do they ask the magic 8-ball what they should price their cues at?

I'm just guessing here and I could be way off base, but I suspect that most cue makers have a desire to make money. As such, in their own self interest, cue makers price their cues at the highest level possible. Furthermore, they also would prefer that overall cue community pricing stay as inflated as possible, this will result in more money in their pockets.

Are you aware of how the pricing of cues came about with the first Blue Book of Pool Cues? It just might have something to do with the principle explained in the preceding paragraph, but then again, maybe I'm just way off base.

And of course they would all prefer if their cues sold at "retail" prices, as would anybody selling anything. I hope this isn't a surprise to anybody reading this. I'm not even sure why you felt the need to mention this, maybe it was an attempt to sound smart and enlightened, if so, you failed miserably.

Regardless of what the "retail" price is, reality is reality. As I said earlier--the market will bear what it will bear, supply and demand, simple as that.

i think most cuemakers would prefer thier cues to sell like homes in ca. higher than what you ask, its amazing they list a house for x and the interested buyers have try to figger out how much higher it will sell for and make an offer.
 
Of course the retail price of anything should have a basis in what is actually being sold in the free market. But then again retail price as compared to fair market value can still have discrepancies.

From my standpoint, the retail price as quoted from the maker or manufacturer should be contextualized as the MSRP or the suggested retail price. This will apply to mostly common items. Now higher end items cater to a slightly more choosy or discriminating audience who want better materials, craftsmanship and a renowned name to go with it. However, if we go to items which are really unique and collectible, its a whole different ballgame.

In short, the price of something is not necessarily equal to how much it costs someone to acquire it. The cost of something is also not necessarily equal to the "value" that one places on the item.

I can pay $50,000 for a particular cue by a particular maker and not be interested in a another cue (same or another maker) which theoretically has the same level as the $50K cue. ;)
 
classiccues said:
My boss's agenda.. thats funny. You know, and I know, these are MY opinions. Just like its my opinion that I prefer the old classic styles to the new CNC made cues. So when I get them made, they are for me. You cannot expose whats not there, but if you lie long enough, you will eventually believe you are telling the truth.
Do I get them made "classic" looking for resale, hell yes. But what, should I deal cues for losses? Woohoo thats me, I sell cues to lose money!!! You're an idiot. I guess you work the bar for free also.. I thought so.

Joe


Joe I don't know that you have any opinions, I do know however that you like to say we and talk about yourself as some big time cue dealer and speak about a website that isn't yours right down to the point of it being your screen name here. Please Joe don't talk about who is the liar here and who is the person pretending to be something they aren't. As a matter of fact your whole obsession with me right now stems from a fight between your boss and me, it's not between us and has nothing to do with us, let it go Joe. Mark lied, he lied to you and now you are working real hard looking like a complete ass to defend him and his crooked ways. But you are the good soldier (puppet) and you'll defend him to the death even though you don't know the real facts. You are so caught up in acting like his partner that you're letting it cloud your judgment. Be your own man Joe.

Jim
 
merylane said:
jimbo, i appologize for my earlier post, but from your first 2 sentences-second paragraph i though you were ok with these designs.

Just because you and Joe would like to try and force a fight on every post doesn't mean I am forced to play along. And just because I stand behind what I believe in doesn't mean I must make a ruling on every cue posted here. My stance has remained the same from day one, I don't need to ok each and every cue and condemn every cue maker who makes a copy. From day 1 I have said "it doesn't matter who does it, it's wrong", yet every time I don't post you and Joe take that to mean I'm ok with that particular cue. Do us all a favor and stop being obsessed with what I think and just post your own opinion, nobody here cares what you think about my opinion, some on the other hand may like to hear if you have an opinion.

it still doesnt make sence though cause those other cues you talked about didnt look like copys to me, or at least not as much as these.

What doesn't make sense is that you can't form any opinions other then to talk about mine.

maybee you could post those side by side so it would be easier to see the differences or similarities your talking about.

thanks for the help
Thanks for what help?? You are obsessed with me to the point that you have lost any ability to form your own opinion. All you really want to do is beg me to post something and then try to pick it apart. Be a man and come up with your own guidelines, don't live your life based on me, don't worry what I think. Your life will go on if you buy a cue that I feel is a stolen design. I don't pay your bills, I shouldn't take up so much of your time. I want to hear your opinion; I want to see how dumb you really are. I've said over and over I'm not the one to draw the line, I'm just the one willing to voice an opinion that isn't that popular with creeps who have no talent to create on their own, and buyers to cheap to pay people for their ability. this place is filled with brokeass fools who want a Gina but can't afford one and this is the main reason people want to argue with me. If you have Gina-taste on a Meucci budget then feel free to go 1/2 ass the cue, but don't come here and defend the practice of stealing and then try to convince me how great the cuemaker you can afford is. The bottom line is I'm all for supporting new cuemakers, but when they steal from people more talented it's wrong. You want to support someone, have them make one of their own designs, any artist would be happy to create their own look and stand behind it.

Jim
 
JimBo said:
Joe I don't know that you have any opinions, I do know however that you like to say we and talk about yourself as some big time cue dealer and speak about a website that isn't yours right down to the point of it being your screen name here. Please Joe don't talk about who is the liar here and who is the person pretending to be something they aren't. As a matter of fact your whole obsession with me right now stems from a fight between your boss and me, it's not between us and has nothing to do with us, let it go Joe. Mark lied, he lied to you and now you are working real hard looking like a complete ass to defend him and his crooked ways. But you are the good soldier (puppet) and you'll defend him to the death even though you don't know the real facts. You are so caught up in acting like his partner that you're letting it cloud your judgment. Be your own man Joe.

Jim

Hey newsflash..its between you and me. Not all Marks non-friends are my non-friends, and vice versa. So stop trying to sound like you know something when you know very little. The problem here Jim is you spent so much time being the stalker on RSB you don't like it now that someone is going to prove your a two faced idiot every chance he gets. The only person who lied was you. So lets get that out of the way. As far as my classiccues / pool table magic relationship, I have never hid what it was and YOU will never know the extent of it. That kind of gets to you don't it?

Hey isn't it you that says there are three sides to every story...

Joe
 
" trilogy " history

bill schick made the "szambushka" in 1994 for mr dunning. mr dunning let howard vickery play with the cue in 1994 and 1995. the first pro tournament he played in using the cue he defeated johnny archer twice and won the tournament.
in 1994 he placed third in the pbt 9 ball world championship.
both joel hercek and barry szamboti made a version of the cue at mr dunnings request. both were finished in the last couple months and are unplayed.

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classiccues said:
Hey newsflash..its between you and me.

Hey news flash yourself, it's not between us, it's just you Joe. You are obsessed and scorned. I don't care if you buy it or not but I'm not mad that you over stepped your boundaris and posted MY picture, the reason I'm not mad at you is because I never had an agreement with you. You didn't have any idea what my agreement with Mark was and you still don't. You however in an attempt to be the internet know-it-all bigshot felt a need to lve the lie and pretend you did. How can I be mad at you for breaking a promise someone else made?? The only thing you are guilty of is blindly following and trying to perpetuate a lie. It's not between us Joe, I still do like you, just feel bad you want to continue to try and carry a grudge for your boss, I've said it before I'll say it again be your own man. I know being your own man means you have to stop living the lie and will hurt your status here, but you'll be much better off. You can keep trying to drag me into a fight all you want, I'm just going to post my opinions as I always do, I still won't hold a grudge towards you for a promise you never made and never broke.

Not all Marks non-friends are my non-friends, and vice versa.

See above, it all goes under the same theory that you want so bad for people to think that you are Classiccues.com that you feel you need to fight every classiccue battle. I seperate Joe Van from Mark/classiccues, I like Joe, I have no respect for Mark.

So stop trying to sound like you know something when you know very little.

I know it all Joe, But again feel free to live whatever lie you need to be important on the internet. But what I know most is a promise made between 2 people in private, a promise you have no clue about yet continue to talk about as if you did.

The problem here Jim is you spent so much time being the stalker on RSB

Yet another attempt at you trying to discredit me by bringing up things that have nothing to do with this thread or topic. One time in 3rd grade I was mean to some 2nd graders, would you like to bring that up to help your obsession??? SHould I now bring up how you've always been obsessed by people and can't ever let it go on RSB?? I can go back to TW or J Walkup, LOL does it have anything to do with this???

you don't like it now that someone is going to prove your a two faced idiot every chance he gets.

I have no problem with you TRYING to prove me wrong, that's not at all what you're doing, you are trying to drag me into every thread and then you're trying to bait me into saying something you think is two faced, big difference Joe. I'm trying to explain that this grudge you have with me isn't two ways, I still like you Joe. I know you're a puppet who feels like he owes his boss to continue to act like an obsessed fool to show some type of loyalty. It's just making you look dumb. You keep calling me 2 faced even when I haven't posted to a thread or when I agree with you. No matter how many times I've said cue design theft is wrong no matter who does it, you keep saying Jimbo is ok with it because he likes that guy. Not my words Joe, you're words and no matter how many times you try that crap it don't float. You aren't proving anything other then the fact that you are obsessed and a liar.

The only person who lied was you.

You keep saying it yet no proof of any lie has been given, you have tried to twist things so much that you have no idea what the lie even is. Plese show us all the lie and give us the proof. <---That will be ignored LOL

So lets get that out of the way.

Get your obsession out of the way, this is no place for it Joe.

As far as my classiccues / pool table magic relationship, I have never hid what it was

LOL that's funny, all your posts are WE, that in itself is a lie, your screen name is Classic cue another lie. It would be like if I made my screenname Samsara cues and posted here and answered questions as if I owned the company. Joe you're living a lie, please stop taking it so serious. Many of us get that Mark lets you run the web-site cause he's to dumb, we know you spam the internet and answer the e-mails because he doesn't have the time. We know you "WORKED" the booth at VF so you could get in without paying and help him lug HIS cues back to HIS room. But most of all we know that 90% of the cues are owned by Mark and he makes all the decisions. Be happy you aren't that tied in with Mark, he's a liar and a creep, you can still distance yourself from that part of him, yet you chose not to because you want so bad to have the crdibility that you feel it brings you here on the net. You are a smart guy you know some stuff about certain cues, you should be proud of it and be your own man Joe.

and YOU will never know the extent of it. That kind of gets to you don't it?

Get's to me??? What do I care? Why do I care if you want to try and pretend to be someone you aren't? I'm not Dr. Phil I can't understand why people feel a need to brag and to want so bad to be important on the internet in a forum filled with other people trying to be experts. I'll never get it, I'll never try to impress a bunch of people trying to sell there own make believe resumes. This is the reason the real collectors and cue makers don't come here, they don't want to roll in the mudd with people pretending and arguing over them.

Hey isn't it you that says there are three sides to every story...

Joe

Yup mine, Mark's and the one you wish you were a part of, and you will lie to try and fool everyone into thinking you had a part in. Keep up the good fight Joe, I am sure Mark is very proud of your loyalty.

Jim

PS Please stop making me look so bad :-DLOL
 
iconcuecom said:
bill schick made the "szambushka" in 1994 for howard vickery.
:cool:

Just to keep Joe happy.

The cue is very Szambotish, I would need to see a Szamboti with the same patternt to say it's a design copy, but if I did I would certainly speak up and say that it was wrong to do. Even though I happen to call Mr. Schick a friend, and have great respect for his work, that doesn't give him a pass to make copies. Of course this is just one man's opinion you can all form your own.

Jim
 
Jimbo:
Hey news flash yourself, it's not between us, it's just you Joe. You are obsessed and scorned. I don't care if you buy it or not but I'm not mad that you over stepped your boundaris and posted MY picture, the reason I'm not mad at you is because I never had an agreement with you. You didn't have any idea what my agreement with Mark was and you still don't. You however in an attempt to be the internet know-it-all bigshot felt a need to lve the lie and pretend you did. How can I be mad at you for breaking a promise someone else made?? The only thing you are guilty of is blindly following and trying to perpetuate a lie. It's not between us Joe, I still do like you, just feel bad you want to continue to try and carry a grudge for your boss, I've said it before I'll say it again be your own man. I know being your own man means you have to stop living the lie and will hurt your status here, but you'll be much better off. You can keep trying to drag me into a fight all you want, I'm just going to post my opinions as I always do, I still won't hold a grudge towards you for a promise you never made and never broke.

Really, then I must be typing your answers to. Obsessed and scorned LOL that’s too funny. I don’t care if you’re mad or not. I also don’t care what agreement you think you had with Mark. No, I never said anything pertaining to ME knowing the agreement. Why do you keep typing stuff that’s pure fabrication? You are the one that keeps lying about the agreement. I, unlike you, will always be my own man. Stop trying to drag you into a fight? LOL I don’t need to try, you willingly post on your own.

See above, it all goes under the same theory that you want so bad for people to think that you are Classiccues.com that you feel you need to fight every classiccue battle. I seperate Joe Van from Mark/classiccues, I like Joe, I have no respect for Mark.

I am classiccues.com, in fact if YOU knew what you thought you knew, you would know that classiccues.com was a name I founded. Its also a name I registered. You are an idiot, the more you type the less you know. Anyone want to check register.com and see who classiccues is registered to?

I know it all Joe, But again feel free to live whatever lie you need to be important on the internet. But what I know most is a promise made between 2 people in private, a promise you have no clue about yet continue to talk about as if you did.

I need to be important on the internet.. lol like the crap you post, you self serving wannabe loser. The fact you want to argue with me is the fact YOU have a problem with Mark and Mark don’t post. It’s the same reason you take cheap shots at him when YOU know he won’t respond. Although there are times I will post what he tells me to post as I do so saying this is from Mark when the need arises.

Yet another attempt at you trying to discredit me by bringing up things that have nothing to do with this thread or topic.

Actually it does. It shows proof of your being an idiot.

I'm trying to explain that this grudge you have with me isn't two ways, I still like you Joe. I know you're a puppet who feels like he owes his boss to continue to act like an obsessed fool to show some type of loyalty. It's just making you look dumb. You keep calling me 2 faced even when I haven't posted to a thread or when I agree with you. No matter how many times I've said cue design theft is wrong no matter who does it, you keep saying Jimbo is ok with it because he likes that guy. Not my words Joe, you're words and no matter how many times you try that crap it don't float. You aren't proving anything other then the fact that you are obsessed and a liar.

You explain it oneway and prove your lying in the same post. Its called being a hypocrite. The loyalty I have towards Mark and his business has nothing to do with US. Get over it.
BTW I don’t need to say it anymore, (your hypocritical cue design stand) you prove almost every thread that it’s a fact.

You keep saying it yet no proof of any lie has been given, you have tried to twist things so much that you have no idea what the lie even is. Plese show us all the lie and give us the proof. <---That will be ignored LOL

I am not going to ignore it, show us proof of the lie? Can you? No you cannot, that’s the great part, you can claim to have an agreement even though you do not. So lets forget about this lie you think is happening and stick to the topic.

LOL that's funny, all your posts are WE, that in itself is a lie, your screen name is Classic cue another lie. It would be like if I made my screenname Samsara cues and posted here and answered questions as if I owned the company. Joe you're living a lie, please stop taking it so serious.

Again look at register.com and see who is lying? Your analogy is as useless as you are, but that’s no surprise.

Many of us get that Mark lets you run the web-site cause he's to dumb, we know you spam the internet and answer the e-mails because he doesn't have the time

Really, ‘nother newsflash for you.. Mark answers his own e-mail. Hey how many business owners YOU know that do their own site or HIRE someone to do it for them? That’s what I thought.

We know you "WORKED" the booth at VF so you could get in without paying and help him lug HIS cues back to HIS room.

That’s hilarious, what did I do this year? Stand outside with a will work for food and board sign? ROTFLMAO. So I split the expenses and its still his room LOL you’re an idiot.

But most of all we know that 90% of the cues are owned by Mark and he makes all the decisions.

Yes, he makes the decisions on the cues he owns. I don’t see how that pertains to this discussion. I could own 1,5,10 be partners with Mark on some and you know what? You still would have no idea. The more you try and sound like you know anything about our relationship, the more idiotic you sound to the people who do know the extent of our relationship. Could you be any more in the dark?

Be happy you aren't that tied in with Mark, he's a liar and a creep, you can still distance yourself from that part of him, yet you chose not to because you want so bad to have the crdibility that you feel it brings you here on the net. You are a smart guy you know some stuff about certain cues, you should be proud of it and be your own man Joe.

Really, “aren’t that tied in with Mark”.. been doing the site for 7 years? Maybe more, been to every show with Mark, drive 2 ½ hours to help him out when he is short handed, or is running a tourney. Yeah, you’re right I am not that tied in. ROTFLMAO. Yeah Jim, I am my own man, something you will never be.

Get's to me??? What do I care? Why do I care if you want to try and pretend to be someone you aren't? I'm not Dr. Phil I can't understand why people feel a need to brag and to want so bad to be important on the internet in a forum filled with other people trying to be experts. I'll never get it, I'll never try to impress a bunch of people trying to sell there own make believe resumes.

You do care, you need to try and make other people less so that you can feel MORE about yourself. You have been doing it, forever. You have absolutely nothing to stand on, so you feel the need to attack other people. Not for your beliefs, but because if you didn’t, you would be nobody. Like when you called every forum reader a "little internet monkey". lol

This is the reason the real collectors and cue makers don't come here, they don't want to roll in the mudd with people pretending and arguing over them.

Funny, I read posts by REAL cue makers here all the time. There also seems to be a fair amount of collectors, why is that Jim? Or are you the guy now that’s going to make up the rules to determine a “real” collector, like you try and make the rules up for everything else pool cue related?

Yup mine, Mark's and the one you wish you were a part of, and you will lie to try and fool everyone into thinking you had a part in. Keep up the good fight Joe, I am sure Mark is very proud of your loyalty.

Jim

PS Please stop making me look so bad :-DLOL


Show me anywhere I said I had a part in the alleged lie? I don’t even claim to have a part in YOUR lie. Do you even read what you type on your own? Again, you’re an idiot.

Joe
 
classiccues Really said:
Here you go again, in one paragraph you say "I also don’t care what agreement you think you had with Mark" Think I had? That would be you making a claim that I never had it, that's you pretending to know Joe. Then you say "I never said anything pertaining to ME knowing the agreement." well, shit the line before you say Think, that implies it was only I who thought it and you hint that you know different. Joe says" You are the one that keeps lying about the agreement" Joe which is it, do you want us to believe you don't know anything about it or do you want to keep hinting that you do, you can't go one paragraph without changing your own story.[/COLOR]


I am classiccues.com, in fact if YOU knew what you thought you knew, you would know that classiccues.com was a name I founded. Its also a name I registered. You are an idiot, the more you type the less you know. Anyone want to check register.com and see who classiccues is registered to?

As I said you run the web-site, Mark's too dumb, what's your point? Classiccues.com is the cues Joe, not the name, I hate to break that to you. If tomorrow Mark dumps you classiccues would be nothing but a few cuemakers who are trying to use you for exposure. BTW anyone who knows also knows that once you can no longer rape them on their prices and they establish their own names they will be done with you.



I need to be important on the internet.. lol like the crap you post, you self serving wannabe loser. The fact you want to argue with me is the fact YOU have a problem with Mark and Mark don’t post. It’s the same reason you take cheap shots at him when YOU know he won’t respond. Although there are times I will post what he tells me to post as I do so saying this is from Mark when the need arises.

Self serving?? I'm nobody Joe, I don't even think I own any cues, I don't post here as a cue collector, I don't post here as a cue maker and I sure as hell don't post here trying to sell cues like you. How am I self serving?? I'm a wannabe what?? Please tell me what I want to be? I don't want to argue with you, that's were you are crazy, just look back and you'll see that you are the one dragging me in. I never mentioned you in this thread, I didn't bring your name up, that's all you Joe. Please stop the lies the proof is in this very thread.




You explain it oneway and prove your lying in the same post. Its called being a hypocrite. The loyalty I have towards Mark and his business has nothing to do with US. Get over it.
BTW I don’t need to say it anymore, (your hypocritical cue design stand) you prove almost every thread that it’s a fact.

Must be, not from facts, but because you just keep saying it LOL.


I am not going to ignore it, show us proof of the lie? Can you? No you cannot, that’s the great part, you can claim to have an agreement even though you do not. So lets forget about this lie you think is happening and stick to the topic.

Once more you claim I don't have an agreement, but a few lines up you said you have never posted that you have any inside knowledge of it. Which is it Joe? want us to believe I have none or do you want us to believe you've never posted that you have knowledge of it?? Let's also not forget that it was my picture and I don't need an agreement, so why would I make one up??? You want everyone here to believe I made up an agreement when in fact I really never needed one?? Once more Joe you're looking foolish.

Again look at register.com and see who is lying? Your analogy is as useless as you are, but that’s no surprise.

The person who owns the website name has nothing to do with who owns what's on it. Again you look dumb because you want to hint at being a partner then here you puff out your chest with your proof that you are the web host. LOL congrats on your big partnership buddy. It would be like the web designer for wal-mart claiming he is partners with Sam himself.

Really, ‘nother newsflash for you.. Mark answers his own e-mail. Hey how many business owners YOU know that do their own site or HIRE someone to do it for them? That’s what I thought.

Again Joe you contradict yourself, you want to pretend to be partners with mark in Classiccues.com then you say how many owners do their own site. LOL So I guess since you own and run the site by your own admission you have nothing to do with the cues. LOL you're too easy.



That’s hilarious, what did I do this year? Stand outside with a will work for food and board sign? ROTFLMAO. So I split the expenses and its still his room LOL you’re an idiot.

Just about, you looked so sad wondering around without Mark's booth to hide behind you were meaningless. Must have sucked to be you this year. Just a mortal LOL.


Yes, he makes the decisions on the cues he owns. I don’t see how that pertains to this discussion. I could own 1,5,10 be partners with Mark on some and you know what? You still would have no idea. The more you try and sound like you know anything about our relationship, the more idiotic you sound to the people who do know the extent of our relationship. Could you be any more in the dark?

Nice way to ignore the point, I think I said Mark owns 90% and I was being kind to you. I don't care what your relationship with him is, I just wish you'd stop stalking me because I have problems with him. You are 2 separate people and I have no issue with you Joe. But keep it up because I am sure he appreciates your loyalty and you love the spotlight. Hints and allegations, keep it up there are still a few buying your lil stories.


Really, “aren’t that tied in with Mark”.. been doing the site for 7 years? Maybe more, been to every show with Mark, drive 2 ½ hours to help him out when he is short handed, or is running a tourney. Yeah, you’re right I am not that tied in. ROTFLMAO. Yeah Jim, I am my own man, something you will never be.

Doing his site for 7 years makes you his web-site designer and host, not his partner, please get your head out of your ass. If Mark took all his cues and hired someone new you'd be stuck with a name and a few Skips. You go to every show and you drive 2 hours cause you are desperate for the spotlight you want so bad to be considered a big shot that you'll do anything to kiss his ass, that makes you sad Joe, not a partner, and doing it for no pay is even worse.



You do care, you need to try and make other people less so that you can feel MORE about yourself. You have been doing it, forever. You have absolutely nothing to stand on, so you feel the need to attack other people. Not for your beliefs, but because if you didn’t, you would be nobody. Like when you called every forum reader a "little internet monkey". lol

Once more I'll point out that you are dragging me into these things, I didn't start this Joe. But I will continue to expose you and make you look dumb, keep baiting me.


Funny, I read posts by REAL cue makers here all the time. There also seems to be a fair amount of collectors, why is that Jim? Or are you the guy now that’s going to make up the rules to determine a “real” collector, like you try and make the rules up for everything else pool cue related?

Very few cuemakers post.


Show me anywhere I said I had a part in the alleged lie? I don’t even claim to have a part in YOUR lie. Do you even read what you type on your own? Again, you’re an idiot.

Joe

Keep dragging me in joe, thi is getting fun, you have yet to even back up one thing you've typed and with each post you look better and better. ;-)

Jim
 
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