Collars and ferrels threaded vs non threaded . Does it really make difference in the feel of the “hit” ? Or any other parts . Threaded material over time seems like it would hold up better. Mainly curious to know about how it affects the hit . Do most cue makers thread all their parts ?
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DeeDeeCues
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Doubtful that anyone can tell the difference in feel.
Threaded material may hold up better... But maybe not. Every thread is a stress riser that can turn into a crack.
Not every maker threads those parts. I don't. I have a Jerry Olivier that doesn't have a threaded collar. Some will tell you it's better, I've never seen evidence that it makes any difference.
Collars and ferrules are threaded. One reason is the threads are the clamp that holds everything in place till the glue dries......forever.
In almost 30 yrs of doing it this way not one collar or ferrule has cracked.
As far as evidence...I've seen collars that have not been threaded separate from inside against the wood.
Why? Who knows....bad glue, wrong glue, poor construction technique, etc etc
I have never seen one that was threaded separated on the inside.
Does this mean all slip fit collars are going to fail? No, but why give it the chance?
It certainly is a personal choice as this debate has happened several times since my time here at azb.
It all boils down to Peace of mind with what you are doing.
As far as "hit or feel".............you'll never be able to tell the difference, imo.
In almost 30 yrs of doing it this way not one collar or ferrule has cracked.
As far as evidence...I've seen collars that have not been threaded separate from inside against the wood.
Why? Who knows....bad glue, wrong glue, poor construction technique, etc etc
I have never seen one that was threaded separated on the inside.
Does this mean all slip fit collars are going to fail? No, but why give it the chance?
It certainly is a personal choice as this debate has happened several times since my time here at azb.
It all boils down to Peace of mind with what you are doing.
As far as "hit or feel".............you'll never be able to tell the difference, imo.
From my experience, threaded ferrules are mostly just quicker and easier to install.
I've built hundreds of LD shafts in the last 20+ years with very thin walled ferrules, (no room for threads) and have never had one come loose.
Carbon shafts don't have threads (again no room for them) and they play and hold up just fine if properly built.
I've built hundreds of LD shafts in the last 20+ years with very thin walled ferrules, (no room for threads) and have never had one come loose.
Carbon shafts don't have threads (again no room for them) and they play and hold up just fine if properly built.
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Done properly, the idea of threading is typically done on ferules and pool cue parts in general is to increase the surface area of the bonded parts and the number of opposing forces required to break the bond between the them. In many cases it is a huge factor in Longevity, But not too much in any other particularly noticeable way in the short term such as in feel or 'Hit'. It is a very good building technique that can only make something more likely to hold up well over time.
I thread all my collars, inserts, screws and caps unless it can't be threaded.
Mechanical plus glue bond makes them immovable.
Not gonna argue the hit, but I'm gonna argue there is a LOT MORE WORK in threading parts .
It's much faster just to clamp ferrules, collars and caps . Some don't even thread joints screws inside the forearm .
There are at least two more operational steps to thread collars if you don't like glue lines . I've never had collars or caps develop a gap under. I've seen many unthreaded ferrules develop a gap and develop chalk ring under . Seen a few bottom cap needing replacement . Some parts cannot be just glued . They need to be threaded if you want them to be permanently secure .
Mechanical plus glue bond makes them immovable.
Not gonna argue the hit, but I'm gonna argue there is a LOT MORE WORK in threading parts .
It's much faster just to clamp ferrules, collars and caps . Some don't even thread joints screws inside the forearm .
There are at least two more operational steps to thread collars if you don't like glue lines . I've never had collars or caps develop a gap under. I've seen many unthreaded ferrules develop a gap and develop chalk ring under . Seen a few bottom cap needing replacement . Some parts cannot be just glued . They need to be threaded if you want them to be permanently secure .
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