While visiting in Germany I watched some 3 cushion on TV and I was amazed at what these guys did with the cue ball. Anyone out there know of any 3 cushion rooms in So. Calif, preferably in LA or Orange Co.? Also, how in the world do they develope strokes like they seem to have? Does it have to do with the equipment? Someone told me that the cue ball is actually heavier. It was mind boggoling.
Three Cushion
- Thread starter Gerald
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there's very few pool rooms that has three cusion...all i know is there's one in toronto. It's probably the only one in toronto.
There's one near the Bike casino. They have heated Verhoeven tables. Private room is cheap. Like 6 bucks an hour. Best part it, tacos are only 99 cents.
The name of the place escapes my lazy afternoon head right now.
The name of the place escapes my lazy afternoon head right now.
Gerald said:
I'm not sure but I've been told that the cues are different, perhaps 15 mm tips.The balls are bigger like those coin operated cue balls on bar tables.Also someone said some tables have heated slate beds. I don't know if this is true because I basically know diddly squat about this version of pool.
Havin said that checkout these awesome 3 cushion shots at this link: enjoy
recoveryjones said:
Sorry that link didn't post after I cut and paste.Go to this (billiard Digest) link: http://www.billiardsdigest.com/ccbo...=130268&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
and press the word "enjoy" listed by the first poster of that thread. If this doesn't work I don't know how to add links to this forum. Hopefully.it'll work. RJ
They use a 12 mm or 11 mm tip with short/fatter but lighter cues.recoveryjones said:
My friends started playing 3c a few months back. They got themselves Longoni cues. Two quit pool and one ordered a Gabriel table. He had to reinforce his loft as the table weighs more 4 tons. 2 inch plus slates plus steel frame on a 10 ft table.
I played one day and made 6 points in 5 innings. I sukked.
I watched some of that tourney in Vegas. I saw Jaspers ran 14 points in a row one time and lost the match. Tough guys.
Sammy S. won it. He's the best now imo.
p.s. most of their cues had wood threads.
8-ball
Oddly enough, the place is called 8-ball.
Have fun Gerald. 3C will ruin your pool stroke though.
Balkline and straight-rail is better for pool imo.
There's an instructor there who gives lessons very cheap.
He's an older gentleman who is hampered with diabetis but still plays great and is very good at teaching.
His name is Chuck Young, 818-599-6931.
Oddly enough, the place is called 8-ball.
Have fun Gerald. 3C will ruin your pool stroke though.
Balkline and straight-rail is better for pool imo.
There's an instructor there who gives lessons very cheap.
He's an older gentleman who is hampered with diabetis but still plays great and is very good at teaching.
His name is Chuck Young, 818-599-6931.
striker_3 said:
I have been told that it keeps the humidity down of the cloth, thus making the speed of the cloth consistent.
Those balls roll forever.......
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Drives out the moisture and makes the table play more consistently.striker_3 said:
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3-cushion billiards became very popular in the united states back in the late 1980's when world champion sang chun lee moved from his native korea to flushing new york. if your really serious about seeing the very best 3-cushion billiard players in the united states i live 8 minutes away! the name of the place is carom cafe, here is their web site, it's amazing, cause, it shows you all about three cushion automatically, and then you could click on all of the pros shots! go to www.caromcafe.com
carom has 10 state of the art verhoeven tables, with state of the art lighting. every july all the greatest pros come here for a tournament. you should see the players here, although not world class, they are the best in the u.s.a. for more info, the best 3-cushion billiard players in the world right now are, fredrick cauldron of belgium, very neat, calculated and simple in thought plain, great player. raymond cuelemans of belgium "mr. 100" he has won somewhere around 160 tournaments! although now, in his mid to late 60's many experts claim, he's at the top of his game! his style is play 3 cushions and no more. semigh sayginer, of turkey, amazing stroke, a bit of a hot head, and a show off, when he's hot, he's hot and when he's off he stinks! sang chun lee of korea, by far the most creative banker, and full of unique ideas, dramaticlly different, and great. dick jaspers of holland, a machine, gets down shoots and scores, nothing crazy just the most solid player on planet earth, some believe he is the greatest right now. and finally, torbjorn bloomdahl of sweden, the single greatest 3-cushion player ever! he is a brain, incredible! fantastic! check him out!
as far as 3-cushion billiard cues are concerned, there are only a few compared to the thousands avaliable for pool, the billiard cues are as follows, helmstetter, yes, that's the same as the pool cue maker, adams, another pool cue maker, longoni, they also make pool cues, sang lee, he has a maker in korea, and the best 3-cushion billiard cue of all--- schuler. the cloth is completly flat, with zero felt feel! much, much faster than simonis 860 cloth. the cloth prefered is simonis rapid 200.
the table is heated not too make it faster as most people would believe. it's heated because in europe, it rains a lot, and it screw up the angles, and billiards is all cushions and angles, so they decided to heat the tables, so they play exactly the same, weather it be sunny, or rainy. the cues are one inch shorter than pool cues, they are 57 inches, and the shaft is wide thick and stiff, reason being, most shots are hit with what the players call maximum english, so much so, they miscue often. check out robert byrne's classic book "the standard book of pool and billiards" it's great! anyhow, the carom cafe web site, should turn you on even further, have fun.
carom has 10 state of the art verhoeven tables, with state of the art lighting. every july all the greatest pros come here for a tournament. you should see the players here, although not world class, they are the best in the u.s.a. for more info, the best 3-cushion billiard players in the world right now are, fredrick cauldron of belgium, very neat, calculated and simple in thought plain, great player. raymond cuelemans of belgium "mr. 100" he has won somewhere around 160 tournaments! although now, in his mid to late 60's many experts claim, he's at the top of his game! his style is play 3 cushions and no more. semigh sayginer, of turkey, amazing stroke, a bit of a hot head, and a show off, when he's hot, he's hot and when he's off he stinks! sang chun lee of korea, by far the most creative banker, and full of unique ideas, dramaticlly different, and great. dick jaspers of holland, a machine, gets down shoots and scores, nothing crazy just the most solid player on planet earth, some believe he is the greatest right now. and finally, torbjorn bloomdahl of sweden, the single greatest 3-cushion player ever! he is a brain, incredible! fantastic! check him out!
as far as 3-cushion billiard cues are concerned, there are only a few compared to the thousands avaliable for pool, the billiard cues are as follows, helmstetter, yes, that's the same as the pool cue maker, adams, another pool cue maker, longoni, they also make pool cues, sang lee, he has a maker in korea, and the best 3-cushion billiard cue of all--- schuler. the cloth is completly flat, with zero felt feel! much, much faster than simonis 860 cloth. the cloth prefered is simonis rapid 200.
the table is heated not too make it faster as most people would believe. it's heated because in europe, it rains a lot, and it screw up the angles, and billiards is all cushions and angles, so they decided to heat the tables, so they play exactly the same, weather it be sunny, or rainy. the cues are one inch shorter than pool cues, they are 57 inches, and the shaft is wide thick and stiff, reason being, most shots are hit with what the players call maximum english, so much so, they miscue often. check out robert byrne's classic book "the standard book of pool and billiards" it's great! anyhow, the carom cafe web site, should turn you on even further, have fun.
The tables are heated so you can keep your tacos warm.
At 8-ball, they don't even turn the heaters off b/c it takes a long time to get heated.
Of course the slates are heated so the cloth stays dry and the cushions stay warm and honest. Artemis International cushions are the most popular I believe.
It takes months to order a Verhoeven table. So my friend opted for the Gabriel table instead which is I think a better table.
Right Joe M.?
At 8-ball, they don't even turn the heaters off b/c it takes a long time to get heated.
Of course the slates are heated so the cloth stays dry and the cushions stay warm and honest. Artemis International cushions are the most popular I believe.
It takes months to order a Verhoeven table. So my friend opted for the Gabriel table instead which is I think a better table.
Right Joe M.?
THE SILENCER said:
Richard Helmstetter owned Adam cues at one time. Denis Diekman also makes cues for 3C (and plays).
8 Ball Billiards is the name of the place. Good players and good tables. Super reasonable rates. There is also one on Holt between mountain and central
in ontario/montclair. Next to Tools R Us. It has Verhoeven tables as well.
Nice people and they have a few tournaments per week. No alcohol as well.
I think there may be one in Hollywood close to Hollywood Billiards (the nice
pocket billiard room) with the same name but I am not sure.
in ontario/montclair. Next to Tools R Us. It has Verhoeven tables as well.
Nice people and they have a few tournaments per week. No alcohol as well.
I think there may be one in Hollywood close to Hollywood Billiards (the nice
pocket billiard room) with the same name but I am not sure.
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tom, your absoloutly correct, i did forget marco, and yes, he is the current champion of the carom cafe tournament. also, let's not forget danny sanchez of spain either.
A heated European table with new cloth rolls so good it's ridiculous. I'm stuck playing on an old clunky Brunswick and the nearest real table is 80 miles away through SF bay area traffic. Anyone can stroke a ball on those tables, but most of the top players know a lot of the artistic billiard shots which require absolute monster strokes. They can draw a ball 3,4 rails around the table,etc... I have a tape of Semih Sayginer doing a five rail masse (after making a 7 rail shot that required a thin hit and a ton of draw ) during a match and he took two seconds and two strokes before drilling it. Sick.
Anyone interested in learning 3-C should get some accu-stats tapes of billiards. I especially recommend the tapes with players commentating along with Bob Byrne; he's good but listening to Blomdahl is much more informative.
Anyone interested in learning 3-C should get some accu-stats tapes of billiards. I especially recommend the tapes with players commentating along with Bob Byrne; he's good but listening to Blomdahl is much more informative.
Bud,bud green said:
It seems I'm running into you on several threads. I will try to get some of the 3C tapes. The ones I've seen have commentary that is fairly obtuse (Byrne's was the worst, though I love his books); I couldn't understand the points they were making. They were certainly not trying to explain the game to the uninitiated. Even the player review tape was a little hard to understand. Do you have any favorites? It is vitally important that I learn a little - a professional player (friend of mine) has a new 3C table ordered and I'm afraid I'm going to be required to play (high level of embarrassment I wish to avoid). There is one crappy billiard table in town I can practice on til then.