You know who I'm talking about guys with great so called games, who will never bet a dime.....Is this an epedemic in your area or just in mine....Granted I can find guys with lots of heart and gamble to match around here. But the easier so called feeder games are non existant...It used to be you beat up a few tasty fish then go after larger prey...Always easier to gamble with someone else's money in your pocket....
Tin Men
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It cracks me up that everyone gets so upset about the weaker players smartening up and not giving away their money anymore. I believe people in america have less expendable money as a whole and aren't blowing it like they used to.
When was pool hustling great? During the war years when sailors had disposable money. Plus now the average Joe can watch pool on TV or on the internet and see how poor they really play. There was a time when the average Joe thought he really was a great player and could have been taken down. Now everyone has smartened up.
When was pool hustling great? During the war years when sailors had disposable money. Plus now the average Joe can watch pool on TV or on the internet and see how poor they really play. There was a time when the average Joe thought he really was a great player and could have been taken down. Now everyone has smartened up.
Let me get this straight... You are upset that weaker players are not losing money to you so you (as a weaker player to the better players) will not have money to gamble with them? So now YOU have become a Tin Man because the smaller fish in your pond won't pony up the money, right?The Kiss said:
JV<-always loves the look on peoples faces when the mirror is turned in their direction.
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Bruce S. de Lis
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The Kiss said:
Well I personally am not into Gambeling, I will play for a Quarter (.$25 Cents/Game ) one in a While. I never BRAG About How GREAT I AM.
Would like to play in more Tournments that are Rated, but will see if that happens.
I am still working on my game after being off on in volentary vacation for 4 Months. It called Rebuilding....
no-sho said:
EXACTLY!!!!
The problem TOF is I look in the mirror too muchTons'O'fun said:Is that because you don't like when the mirror is facing you?.
I am my own worst critic as they say...
JV
If you are talking about players that won't gamble, but CLAIM they do, then you are right. Otherwise, maybe those people just dont gamble, and you should respect that. As for the weaker players, you can't just expect them to want to give their money away for nothing. I play a very strong player occasionally just for the table time, and we play long sets. I have no chance to beat him, hell sometimes I get to shoot 2 or 3 times in a race to 7 if the table is breaking well. He runs alot of racks, and he has even offered me a spot, playing just for the time. I tell him that when I play cheap or for the time I will play anyone even. I donate 15 or 20 dollars to hopefully learn something. Now if I was playing him for like $50 or $100 or higher, I would definately ask for appopriate weight. But for now I consider it cheap lessons. People who ask for weight and are only betting $5 or $10, that's pretty nitt-ish.
Johnny "V" said:
I asked for the world yesterday playing for an ice cream! Still, people insist on calling me a fish instead of a nit.
LastTwo said:
I always find it hilarious when the local A players who get used to beating the hell out of people who can't run out get asked to play by REAL players. Seems every pool hall has a couple of guys who are always talking about how they want to gamble, there's no action,no one will bet big,etc...
Then when strong players come around, they shut the hell up and start firing off excuses to not play. My local hall has a number of guys who are always looking to pinch weaker players for 20-50 bucks. When the Pechaeur tour came by and guys like Chohan, Billy Palmer, Rafael Martinez, and a bunch of good (but not pro) players came by, no one even TRIED to match up, even with weight. The same guys telling the C players that they need to gamble with better players to strenghten their game go running away when real players ask.
"Don't feel good, tired, got some stuff to do, wife won't let me play..."
Whatever. If you are going to tell everone what a big gambler you are and constantly talk about how you want to match up, get some weight and play someone who doesn't give you 2 or 3 chances every rack.
Then when strong players come around, they shut the hell up and start firing off excuses to not play. My local hall has a number of guys who are always looking to pinch weaker players for 20-50 bucks. When the Pechaeur tour came by and guys like Chohan, Billy Palmer, Rafael Martinez, and a bunch of good (but not pro) players came by, no one even TRIED to match up, even with weight. The same guys telling the C players that they need to gamble with better players to strenghten their game go running away when real players ask.
"Don't feel good, tired, got some stuff to do, wife won't let me play..."
Whatever. If you are going to tell everone what a big gambler you are and constantly talk about how you want to match up, get some weight and play someone who doesn't give you 2 or 3 chances every rack.
Bruce S. de Lis said:Well I personally am not into Gambeling, I will play for a Quarter (.$25 Cents/Game ) one in a While. I never BRAG About How GREAT I AM.
Would like to play in more Tournments that are Rated, but will see if that happens.
I am still working on my game after being off on in volentary vacation for 4 Months. It called Rebuilding....
It's kind of funny gambling for a quarter when it costs a dollar to play on most bar tables, which brings up another point. If a guy only has 20 or 30 dollars to waste and beers cost 2 to 3 bucks and a game of pool cost one dollar, then these guys don't have any extra money to gamble with.
I bet in the 70s these guys still had 20 or 30 dollars to spend, but beers where 50 cents and a game of pool was a quarter. At that time they probably had some extra money to gamble with.
I think it is the price to play on a bar table that has killed the action at bars.
But gambling doesn't seem to be on a downward spiral in America. It's just that people are shifting what they are gambling on. People are gambling less at pool and greyhounds and gambling more at casinos.
I know guys who would have a heart attack if they gambled away 20 dollars at the pool table, but have no problem blowing 2 or 3 hundred at the casino. Where's the logic?
LastTwo said:
I had a kid the other day who wanted to play for $3 a set and then asked for weight on top of that. I told him I would give him weight if we upped it to $5, so that I could actually cover the table time, because everyone splits time in this hall, and he said "no".
I basically told him that if we play for cheap money there is no spot and if he wanted to play for more money I would give him a spot. Am I wrong? Next time I will offer to play him for the time, but I risk spending some money by doing this and I feel after paying my dues to become a strong player that I now deserve to start reaping some of the rewards. Is this wrong?
How do others feel?