What is the best tip glue to use for Ivory ferrules? And the best tip glue to use for Malamine furrules. (Is that how you spell it? lol) or one that works good with both? Thanks
Tip glue for Ivory
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tip glue for ivory
I've always used 5 minute epoxy to glue Ivory ferrules to the tenon,(unthreaded & capped). For all other ferrule materials, I have only used Duro gel, for 20 years. For ALL TIPS, reguardless of what type of ferrule it's going on, I use Duro Gel...JER
Jeffrey Gayle said:
I've always used 5 minute epoxy to glue Ivory ferrules to the tenon,(unthreaded & capped). For all other ferrule materials, I have only used Duro gel, for 20 years. For ALL TIPS, reguardless of what type of ferrule it's going on, I use Duro Gel...JER
For the past 2 years I've used SUPER GLUE GEL on my ivory ferrules with no problem whatsoever.
What I also do to protect the ferrule is wrap it in SCOTCH BRAND DECORATE AND REPAIR TAPE - it's kind of a plastic tape made by 3M and is available at the local hardware store. Before cutting off the old tip, the ferrule is wrapped in that tape for protection. The tip is cut off and the ferrule faced using the TWEETEN RAPID TOP SANDER.
The new tip is then applied using SUPER GLUE GEL and allowed to dry thoroughly - about 1/2 hour at most. The excess super glue gel is removed using a cotton swab just after tip application and adhesion. Finally the tip is trimmed somewhat and then I remove the tape. Final trimming, burnishing and shaping follow.
What I also do to protect the ferrule is wrap it in SCOTCH BRAND DECORATE AND REPAIR TAPE - it's kind of a plastic tape made by 3M and is available at the local hardware store. Before cutting off the old tip, the ferrule is wrapped in that tape for protection. The tip is cut off and the ferrule faced using the TWEETEN RAPID TOP SANDER.
The new tip is then applied using SUPER GLUE GEL and allowed to dry thoroughly - about 1/2 hour at most. The excess super glue gel is removed using a cotton swab just after tip application and adhesion. Finally the tip is trimmed somewhat and then I remove the tape. Final trimming, burnishing and shaping follow.
Ok, one says don't use super glue whatever you do & the other said he's been using it for 2 years, so I guess I'll go with the Duro Gel. Is there any setup time or is it like super glue, instant? Thx
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SUPER GLUE GEL was recommended to me by Bludworth. The setup time, the amount of time that the glue allows for tip repositioning, is around a minute or so. Once the tip has been positioned, I then turn the shaft upside down and gently push the tip and shaft into the floor and hold it as such usng light pressure for around 5 minutes. For the next half an hour or so I place the shaft rightside up setting against the desk or chair.
Then, the tip is ready for the remainder of the installation operations.
Then, the tip is ready for the remainder of the installation operations.
tip glue for ivory
1st sand the back of the tip & the end of the ferrule, with 60-80 grit sandpaper. Getting the end of the ferrule sanded flush, without rounding the edges is the toughest part, if you're doing this by hand. Put enough super glue gel on so that when you spread it around(with the tip of the tube), the tip looks & STAYS wet. DON'T OVER DO ,or the glue will have a hard time setting up. Put the tip on the end of the ferrule & gently give it a twist back & forth(to distribute the glue onto the ferrule end. I only hold the tip to the ferrule end for 60 seconds. If it's still not set by then, you used too much glue. Turn the shaft upright ( right away), resting on the tip & trim with a new razor blade or utility knife. Take small cuts & work your way down to the ferrule. Sand the tip flush with the ferrule by putting the side of the tip onto the sandpaper & sand while rotating the shaft. Now after saying all of that, installing a tip on an Ivory ferrule, should be done in a lathe, by someone who knows what to do. Ivory is very soft & sands away very fast, if you are not really careful. You could get it all done & have it look good, but have a ferrule that is a 1/2 mm smaller. At $50+ for a new ferrule take it or send it to a GOOD repairman. GOOD LUCK...JER
Jeffrey Gayle said:
1st sand the back of the tip & the end of the ferrule, with 60-80 grit sandpaper. Getting the end of the ferrule sanded flush, without rounding the edges is the toughest part, if you're doing this by hand. Put enough super glue gel on so that when you spread it around(with the tip of the tube), the tip looks & STAYS wet. DON'T OVER DO ,or the glue will have a hard time setting up. Put the tip on the end of the ferrule & gently give it a twist back & forth(to distribute the glue onto the ferrule end. I only hold the tip to the ferrule end for 60 seconds. If it's still not set by then, you used too much glue. Turn the shaft upright ( right away), resting on the tip & trim with a new razor blade or utility knife. Take small cuts & work your way down to the ferrule. Sand the tip flush with the ferrule by putting the side of the tip onto the sandpaper & sand while rotating the shaft. Now after saying all of that, installing a tip on an Ivory ferrule, should be done in a lathe, by someone who knows what to do. Ivory is very soft & sands away very fast, if you are not really careful. You could get it all done & have it look good, but have a ferrule that is a 1/2 mm smaller. At $50+ for a new ferrule take it or send it to a GOOD repairman. GOOD LUCK...JER
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
tip glue for ivory
Good info thanks, but there is nobody here in Brazil that can do this, I have to learn. The Willards tip machine is that ok to learn with. do they do a good job, with a little pratice?[/QUOTE]
I have 2 of the Willards & find that they do a great job. Be careful, when you start getting close to the ferrule, when trimming the tip. They will chip an Ivory ferrule...JER
Good info thanks, but there is nobody here in Brazil that can do this, I have to learn. The Willards tip machine is that ok to learn with. do they do a good job, with a little pratice?[/QUOTE]
I have 2 of the Willards & find that they do a great job. Be careful, when you start getting close to the ferrule, when trimming the tip. They will chip an Ivory ferrule...JER