I have a question regarding tips. I have had a few different tips, including: Triangle, Lepro, Talsman, Everest, and Tiger(not sure which one). I have a Predator shaft that originally came with an Everest tip. I have replaced it a few times and I currently have a Talsman with a red backer. I want to re-tip it myself with an Everest or a Tiger Sniper. I noticed that they are both medium tips, however the Everest(75.1) is a bit harder than the Sniper(66.9) according to Muellers.com. The Everest is also a bit less expensive than the Sniper. Do you have any suggestions on these two tips and why?
Tip opinions??
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What you ask may not be as easy as it sounds. The nuances of cue tips are many and could be discussed for hundreds of years and perhaps cost thousands of lives.
Back in the day, I replaced a lot of tips. When the very best players wanted a new tip installed I allways put on what ever they desired, no question asked. I figured at their level they had already solved the tip mystery and didn't need any input from me.
When the five and six speeds showed up wanting a new tip we usually discussed the matter. New tips on the market, multi-layer versus single, skiv thicknesses, porcine versus horsehide, the lastest rumors about Moori, etc.
The one and two-speeds, who didn't play much, usually got a LePro and was out the door pretty quick. But, having said that, I put a ten-dollar LePro on a road players cue once and later that evening watched him win a couple of thousand at our local poolroom. There are no hard and fast rules.
So my advice is this. Since today's tips are still relatively cheap enough to experiment with, then do that until you find one that suits your needs.
Back in the day, I replaced a lot of tips. When the very best players wanted a new tip installed I allways put on what ever they desired, no question asked. I figured at their level they had already solved the tip mystery and didn't need any input from me.
When the five and six speeds showed up wanting a new tip we usually discussed the matter. New tips on the market, multi-layer versus single, skiv thicknesses, porcine versus horsehide, the lastest rumors about Moori, etc.
The one and two-speeds, who didn't play much, usually got a LePro and was out the door pretty quick. But, having said that, I put a ten-dollar LePro on a road players cue once and later that evening watched him win a couple of thousand at our local poolroom. There are no hard and fast rules.
So my advice is this. Since today's tips are still relatively cheap enough to experiment with, then do that until you find one that suits your needs.
After reading this it's very evident that this man is very knowledgable about how different levels of players think when it comes to tips.
I'll second his suggestion to try out a variety of tips. I do alot of cue repair at many pool halls in my area and have quite a few customers change tip after tip on the same cue until they find something they liked.
You can't put a price on finally finding the tip that you feel comfortable with, you'll only have to do this once.
For the record I prefer an Everest tip over a Sniper. Sniper is just too soft for me.
Thank you Sir, for the kind words.
And, just between you, me and the lamp post, a Triangle that has been tossed into a glass of water to make sure it sinks, then pressed to hell and back, is a hard tip to beat. Buddy Hall uses them, or so I've heard.
thanks for that little tid bit of info. This is the second time in a week ʹve heard that about a triangle. I will definately have to try that.
Thanks Again,
Gil Castillo
I asked a reputable dealer a similar question recently. His answer:
The Sniper is rated slightly higher but I find it to be a minimal difference, so much that I would not suggest paying more to get it installed on the shaft to be honest.
I ended up going with a kamui black soft on my z-2. Feels like a whole different shaft next to a regular sniper. It grabs more than I am used to, lots of swerve. I think I'm gonna like it, but not just yet. Anyway Carom, good luck with your decision.
The Sniper is rated slightly higher but I find it to be a minimal difference, so much that I would not suggest paying more to get it installed on the shaft to be honest.
I ended up going with a kamui black soft on my z-2. Feels like a whole different shaft next to a regular sniper. It grabs more than I am used to, lots of swerve. I think I'm gonna like it, but not just yet. Anyway Carom, good luck with your decision.
Here is a list of my tips moori.talisman,lepro.everest,kamui,sniper and this is what i use..triangle on a predator cue with a 314 shaft and on my 314..2 shaft.They work great 4 me.AND I SAID ME , nothing wrong with layer tips,but at some point and time arent u playing on glue :smile:
I don't mean to sound like a know it all here, but to tell you the truth Petey, you're actually playing on a layer of chalk. The biggest thing going for a cue tip is it's ability to hold chalk. Otherwise, a piece of mosaic tile would do just as well.
As to soft versus hard versus anything else, I tend to favor hard. If kept well chalked, which is what should be done anyway, I believe there is more consistancy from hit to hit.
But, remember. Opinions are like rearends, everbody's got one.