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Kelvinfkt

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Hi All,

I am currently using a Kamui Black Medium tip. Is it advisable to tip pick a layered pooltip? If im not mistaken, someone in the forum warned not to tip pick any layered tip as it will delaminate the cue tip. Appreciate your inputs on how to maintain a cue tip.

What about using a shaper to shape it to either dime or nickel? will it spoils the cue tip?

Rgds
 
Hi there,

i also use Kamui Tips. After installing i cut the sides down with a sharp knife and then finishing it with sandpaper.
Then i *make my shape* with a Willard and then sandpaper. Til now never had a problem with that. (with 20 Kamui s or so).

I also use a Tip Pik. It s just about how you use it. You really really just need to *touch* your tip very softly. You don t need to put pressure with it!! It s more like let it touch your tip to make a very small perforation.

And for myself i just can say that i PERHAPS use the Tip Pick once a month- i m using as i said Kamui Soft (before that Black Med) and also using Kamui Chalk. HOlds chalk perfectly. And Tip Pick really using not often:)

But you could do it also the oldschool way, and make it with a sandpaper:)

lg
Ingo
 
I use Kamui Black Soft and I use a tip pick and Willard's Scuffer no problem. Just don't kill it. I scuff generally from center out, rotating the cue (only once a month or so...maybe not even that much) and hit it with a tip pick a little more frequently, but very lightly, just enough to put a little roughness on the surface. No delamination so far. I use Blue Diamond chalk; either that or Masters is abrasive enough to keep your tip's surface relatively in shape and not too glazed over, if you chalk correctly. I pick the surface with a tip pick maybe once every three sessions.
 
I've used many kinds of layered tips (Kamui Black Hard right now) and have used a Tip Pik every time I play with no ill effects. I tap the tip firmly all over with the Pik. No twisting!

pj
chgo
 
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The problem with using a Tip Pick on a laminated tip is that it penetrates multiple layers of the tip.Most tip manufacturers do NOT recommend using it on there tips for fear of de-lamination.I don't use it on my Talisman tip just a simple scuffing is all that's needed.Hope this helps.

And check out my Blog bellow.
 
Thanks for all the replies.

i just bought the Ulti-mate cue tip tool from Ozone. Wonder if i use it's dime cue tip shaper, will it spoil my layered tip? Currently my tip is a nickel tip but i do not like it but i dont know if shaping it with this tool will spoil the tip. Please help.

Thanks!
 
Kelvinfkt said:
Thanks for all the replies.

i just bought the Ulti-mate cue tip tool from Ozone. Wonder if i use it's dime cue tip shaper, will it spoil my layered tip? Currently my tip is a nickel tip but i do not like it but i dont know if shaping it with this tool will spoil the tip. Please help.

Thanks!
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You shouldn't have a problem using the Ulti-mate Tip Tool's shapers with a layered tip. Those shapers are just sandpaper stickied into concave depressions, after all.

You can even do the "making a campfire" method by putting the Ulti-mate on the ground, between your feet, and inverting your cue down into it. Just be gentle and s-l-o-w -- don't actually use burning speed as if you're really making a campfire! (If you do it that fast, you'll cause delamination because the tip will heat up and breakdown the bond between the layers. Or, you'll cause the glue that bonds the sandpaper to the depression in the Ulti-mate to melt and the sandpaper will lift out with the tip.) Rather, just go s-l-o-w, and check the tip after each five seconds (by your watch), picking up the Ulti-mate, inverting it, and tapping it against the floor to empty out the leather dust.

Most people who will warn you against the "making a campfire" method will say that they've caused delamination, or that the sandpaper itself will come unglued from the Ulti-mate. That is because they did the "campfire" method way too fast!

Just take it easy, and it will work in shaping your layered tip beautifully. Also, I agree with Pat and Ingo that *proper* use of a Tip-Pik -- i.e. gentle tapping all over the surface of the tip, with no twisting of the Tip-Pik -- will not cause delamination.

Hope this is helpful!
-Sean
 
Kelvinfkt said:
Thanks for all the replies.

i just bought the Ulti-mate cue tip tool from Ozone. Wonder if i use it's dime cue tip shaper, will it spoil my layered tip? Currently my tip is a nickel tip but i do not like it but i dont know if shaping it with this tool will spoil the tip. Please help.

Thanks!
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You won't "ruin" your tip, but Kamui's play better with a nickel bevel (less miss cues). I never had problems with either bevel, but a nickel really works best for me with my Kamui. You don't have to worry about it, you can do the dime bevel, then use a pick from now on...the bevel of the tip will work it's way down to a nickel on its own through glazing/flattening/chalking...you don't have to reshape it now.
 
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The Ultimate tip tool comes with both the nickle and dime shaper.It's the only tool I use!And I love it.
When I get a new tip installed,I have it shaped too a dime,and then it naturally flattens to a nickle.With zero mushrooming.
 
sfleinen said:
You shouldn't have a problem using the Ulti-mate Tip Tool's shapers with a layered tip. Those shapers are just sandpaper stickied into concave depressions, after all.

You can even do the "making a campfire" method by putting the Ulti-mate on the ground, between your feet, and inverting your cue down into it. Just be gentle and s-l-o-w -- don't actually use burning speed as if you're really making a campfire! (If you do it that fast, you'll cause delamination because the tip will heat up and breakdown the bond between the layers. Or, you'll cause the glue that bonds the sandpaper to the depression in the Ulti-mate to melt and the sandpaper will lift out with the tip.) Rather, just go s-l-o-w, and check the tip after each five seconds (by your watch), picking up the Ulti-mate, inverting it, and tapping it against the floor to empty out the leather dust.

Most people who will warn you against the "making a campfire" method will say that they've caused delamination, or that the sandpaper itself will come unglued from the Ulti-mate. That is because they did the "campfire" method way too fast!

Just take it easy, and it will work in shaping your layered tip beautifully. Also, I agree with Pat and Ingo that *proper* use of a Tip-Pik -- i.e. gentle tapping all over the surface of the tip, with no twisting of the Tip-Pik -- will not cause delamination.

Hope this is helpful!
-Sean
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Wow thanks Sean!

this is very very helpful!
 
West Point 1987 said:
You won't "ruin" your tip, but Kamui's play better with a nickel bevel (less miss cues). I never had problems with either bevel, but a nickel really works best for me with my Kamui. You don't have to worry about it, you can do the dime bevel, then use a pick from now on...the bevel of the tip will work it's way down to a nickel on its own through glazing/flattening/chalking...you don't have to reshape it now.
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If you are a center ball player WP is more or less right .. putting a dime on it won't last.... It will flatten and end up as his nickle...

but...... if you prefer the dime..... odds are that you don't mind getting out on the edge of the cueball...

Which more or less means you get to keep your dime for extended periods of time before needing to touch up.....
 
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