Tips, Tips, and Tips Revisited

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Fred Agnir said:
Do a search on tips. Also, the September 2004 issue of InsidePOOL Magazine has an article on tips.

Fred <~~~ still using Triangle tips

Wish I could find a Place in PHX that sold InsidePool.... Order it, never got it, called with my oder confern #, and they said computer problems... :mad: I gave up.... :(
 
Bruce S. de Lis said:
Wish I could find a Place in PHX that sold InsidePool.... Order it, never got it, called with my oder confern #, and they said computer problems... :mad: I gave up.... :(


Do you think it could be the fault of the post office...or I should say the carrier who is more than likely shit scared to enter into a hell hole called Lizard Acres?? :eek: :D (FACT: more postal carriers have disappeared off the face of the planet who deliver to Lizard Acres than anywhere else)
 
Flex said:
There are a few things that Talisman strongly suggests you do and don't do to their tips, taken from here:

http://www.talismanbilliards.com/FAQ.asp

1. Consider professional installation and show our installation suggestions to your repair guy.
2. Do not leave the tips too tall after installation and shaping.
3. Do not use any tip shaping tools which use blades to shape the tip radius
4. Do not use a tool like the ultimate cue tip tool to burnish the sides of the tip unless the tip is shaped to a taper as well. We advise against its use.
5. Do not apply any liquid to the sides of the tip to shine or burnish.
6. Do not tap the tip with a tip tapper.
7. Basically leave the tip alone except for chalking and the occasional scuffing or reshape.

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After following their advice, I've had no problems whatsoever with their tips, and am very pleased with them. By the way, if you aren't happy with the tips, they will fully refund the purchase price of the tips, PLUS $10 for any possible installation costs you may have incurred. Is that a deal, or what? :D

Cheers,

Flex

Thanks for the info, Flex. I don't think I violated any of their suggestions. I do my own tips with a hand-held "lathe" I invented. I don't burnish the sides using liquid or use a blade for shaping the tip, so I think it was just one bad tip.

The tip separated about 3/4ths the way down from the top, btw.

Jeff Livingston
 
catscradle said:
I've been a big devotee of Moori soft, but I'm beginning to rethink it. ... Talisman I was disappointed with as more often then not they delaminate. I had it put on by the same person who does my Mooris (and the Stratos). Never a problem with the Mooris so I've got to think it is the Talisman. Maybe you have to be extra carefully with a Talisman, but if that's the case I consider that a defect in and of itself.


Actually, I had some Mooris delaminate on me. At the time I thought, and still do think, that probably my vigorous twisting of that doggone Ultimate Tip Twister :D probably boogered the thing up, especially after that awesome diggin' deep with my spikey Tip Pic into the layers of the Moori. So, yes, I also got the chalk-between-the-layers effect with the Mooris, and they eventually came apart, as might be expected.

The only thing I don't like about the Talisman hard is I hafta rechalk it after every shot... gollee... but aside from that, I've no complaints... I kinda like the squeaky chalk sounds anyway, and make sure the squeaks are plenty audible :D There's something soothing about those sounds, almost as good as hearing a ball smack deep into the pocket.

Cheers!

Flex
 
chefjeff said:
Thanks for the info, Flex. I don't think I violated any of their suggestions. I do my own tips with a hand-held "lathe" I invented. I don't burnish the sides using liquid or use a blade for shaping the tip, so I think it was just one bad tip.

The tip separated about 3/4ths the way down from the top, btw.

Jeff Livingston


You're most welcome, Jeff. By the way, if you order the tips from Talisman direct the shipping is free, and they toss a few other freebees in too.

Flex
 
drivermaker said:
Do you think it could be the fault of the post office...or I should say the carrier who is more than likely shit scared to enter into a hell hole called Lizard Acres?? :eek: :D (FACT: more postal carriers have disappeared off the face of the planet who deliver to Lizard Acres than anywhere else)

I have Zero Diffulity with the post Office. It InsidePools FAULT. :cool:
 
Bruce S. de Lis said:
Yes I still see many Non Layered Tip on house Cues, and Inexpensive production Cues. But it appear the New Fangled Layered Tips are taking over the Tip business. ;)

Actually I would not put Schon cues on the inexpensive production cue list, but they still ship them new with a fine Le Pro tip...(never could figure that out, cause I can't stand the Le Pro tip)

I use a Mori Quick...but I think you may find that the tip preference will change from cue to cue...You need to find the right combination for your cues set up........JMO

I hardly ever see any Billiards Mags for sale.... I know where you can get Low Rider or Hot VWs though if you need them.... ;)
 
Mike Templeton said:
I'm a Sniper man. Less miscues.

Mike

Oh yah ? Well I use Elk Masters ! The last couple (I go through about 4 a year) I've not had to shape at all, they seem to stay pounded in shape.

Never tried a tip that cost more than $1.

Dave
 
drivermaker said:
Hey Chris...what did those Chandivert Rocky and Champion tips play like and what would you compare them to now?

I had a Chandivert Rocky on an Omega DPK sneaky pete (please don't ask, I kick myself on a daily basis) and it was the hardest friggin tip I've ever seen! Practically had to use an angle grinder to shape it. The Champions were a little softer than I care for. I like Triangles, wet them and press them overnight.
 
catscradle said:
A couple of times I just wanted to bring a cheap cue for various reasons so I took the Dufferin with the Stratos. I really liked the way it played and am considering a harder tip on my main playing cue. I've also had good luck with a Stratos soft, Moori medium, and an Everest which I think equates to a medium.
Talisman I was disappointed with as more often then not they delaminate. I had it put on by the same person who does my Mooris (and the Stratos). Never a problem with the Mooris so I've got to think it is the Talisman. Maybe you have to be extra carefully with a Talisman, but if that's the case I consider that a defect in and of itself.

I had two Talisman hard tips installed on my playing cue shafts at one time. Both of them went bad with the centers popping out on them. I won't be buying any of their tips again.

I now have a Stratos X-tra Hard Tip and a Tsunami Hard tip installed on my playing cue shafts. I like them both but I'm leaning a little more towards the Stratos. The Mueller's catalog was right in their description of the Tsunami tip being for those who like to use extreme English.
 
BRKNRUN said:
Actually I would not put Schon cues on the inexpensive production cue list, but they still ship them new with a fine Le Pro tip...(never could figure that out, cause I can't stand the Le Pro tip)

I use a Mori Quick...but I think you may find that the tip preference will change from cue to cue...You need to find the right combination for your cues set up........JMO

I hardly ever see any Billiards Mags for sale.... I know where you can get Low Rider or Hot VWs though if you need them.... ;)


Had Evan make a shaft for me a year ago, don't believe it was a lepro. If it was a Lepro it was the hardest one I've ever seen. I played with Lepro's for about 15 years, and the tip on that shaft wasn't a Lepro.
 
cubswin said:
Had Evan make a shaft for me a year ago, don't believe it was a lepro. If it was a Lepro it was the hardest one I've ever seen. I played with Lepro's for about 15 years, and the tip on that shaft wasn't a Lepro.

You are probably correct. I thought I heard somewhere that is what is put on Schon shafts....(that is what I get for listening to hear say)

All I can say for sure is that I have had the pleasure of hitting with three brand new Schon Shafts and have had the tip replaced as soon as possible on all of them...(just my personal preference I guess)
 
I use medium/hard triangles on my playing cues . Because of all the posts here about layered tips I went to Talisman's website and ordered some, I haven't put one on yet but I'll make the switch in the next few weeks to see what the deal is with layered tips.
 
I have been using Talisman, Moori, Triangle, LePro, and now Sniper. Just put a Sniper on a cue last night. If you put the LePros in a vice before installing, they won't mushroom near as fast as if you don't. Only problem I have ever had with the Talisman was with the hard ones. They split when used to break. I use a Triangle on my break cue. 21 oz Meucci 97-15. My playing cue has Moori's. I use medium layered tips.
Purdman :cool:
 
cubswin said:
Had Evan make a shaft for me a year ago, don't believe it was a lepro. If it was a Lepro it was the hardest one I've ever seen. I played with Lepro's for about 15 years, and the tip on that shaft wasn't a Lepro.


I'm betting it was a Sumo
 
vader93490 said:
I had two Talisman hard tips installed on my playing cue shafts at one time. Both of them went bad with the centers popping out on them. I won't be buying any of their tips again.

I now have a Stratos X-tra Hard Tip and a Tsunami Hard tip installed on my playing cue shafts. I like them both but I'm leaning a little more towards the Stratos. The Mueller's catalog was right in their description of the Tsunami tip being for those who like to use extreme English.

I've installed about 1600 Talisman Pro tips, mostly hard, and have had very good luck with them. I haven't put on many med. or soft so I can't comment about them. A batch I got 6 or 8 months ago I had the same problems that you are talking about. The second or third layer from the bottom of the tips would delaminate. I talked to Tony jones, the owner of Talisman and he said he would investigate the problem. About six weeks later he e-mailed me and let me know that they found the problem. He said the hydrometer in their drying room was not reading correctly and the tips were not completly dry when the sealer was put on the outside. This kept the glue from completely drying and caused very early failure. Since that time I've put on about 75 more of the tips with no failure.
If this is the reason that you don't like them then I would give them another try as they are a very good tip especialy for the price. I can understand your reluctance as I'm the same way when I have a bad experiance with anything however they do have a good guaranty.
Dick
 
pbat2751 said:
I'm betting it was a Sumo

Was a hard tip, dark color, one piece. Hardest tip I've ever hit with, damn thing made a ping noise on each hit.
 
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