to those who prefer wood to wood joints?

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smashmouth

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There are people here who believe that steel is bad in a joint.

My question to those poeple, just out of curiosity, why not use a full
wood to wood joint like some of the 3C players?
 
You mean wooden joint pins?
3-C players are very traditional.
Pool players are not.
Why use wood when you can use titanium, aluminum or G10?
They are much more durable and do not expand/contract.
 
I've often wondered the same thing. I prefer a wood to wood joint, myself, and recently ordered a cue from Chuck Starkey (desi2960), a forum member who makes cues with a wooden pin, to see how I like it. His prices are very reasonable and his reviews are all very positive, so if this is something that you or anyone is interested in pursuing further, I'd suggest contacting him.
 
The thing that amazes me about the wood to wood joint in billiards cues is how hard the hit is. They make great break cues...except for the fact that the wooden joint is so fragile.
 
arsenius said:
The thing that amazes me about the wood to wood joint in billiards cues is how hard the hit is. They make great break cues...except for the fact that the wooden joint is so fragile.
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How can a joint that can take full force carom shots and masses not stand up to a break shot with the smaller, lighter pool ball? If it can't there is either a quality problem with the cue or something really unusual with the break stroke, like hitting the table or something. I don't see how hitting a pool ball with a wood joint would hurt it. Wear or fragility while not hitting balls might be another matter. But maybe I am wrong. I have a couple wood joint cues with both pool and billiard shafts, but don't play with them much so I don't see the wear and tear really. I just can't envision how a wood joint would bust by hitting a ball with it. If the shaft were bent into the cloth I would expect that to give well before the joint. I play mostly all pool now and have decided I prefer a more standard pool cue for that. The wood joint has its own feel and such tho.

To the OP, not many makers do these joints, but there are some advantages. Check out Ron Kilby's website for more details. Dieckman's too.
 
arsenius said:
The thing that amazes me about the wood to wood joint in billiards cues is how hard the hit is. They make great break cues...except for the fact that the wooden joint is so fragile.
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I think that the hardness is much more due to the taper used in these cues.

@MattRDavis - How do you like your new cue? I've been contemplating buying one of Chuck's cues aswell.
 
JPB said:
How can a joint that can take full force carom shots and masses not stand up to a break shot with the smaller, lighter pool ball? If it can't there is either a quality problem with the cue or something really unusual with the break stroke, like hitting the table or something. I don't see how hitting a pool ball with a wood joint would hurt it. Wear or fragility while not hitting balls might be another matter. But maybe I am wrong. I have a couple wood joint cues with both pool and billiard shafts, but don't play with them much so I don't see the wear and tear really. I just can't envision how a wood joint would bust by hitting a ball with it. If the shaft were bent into the cloth I would expect that to give well before the joint. I play mostly all pool now and have decided I prefer a more standard pool cue for that. The wood joint has its own feel and such tho.

To the OP, not many makers do these joints, but there are some advantages. Check out Ron Kilby's website for more details. Dieckman's too.
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Maybe fragile is the wrong word. It's quite common to see players push the tip into the cloth on the break (think Mike Sigel or Tom Cruise in TCOM). I think since the 3C cues are so much stiffer, they don't stand up to this action as well as a thinner pool cue.
 
Double-Dave said:
@MattRDavis - How do you like your new cue? I've been contemplating buying one of Chuck's cues aswell.
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I don't have it yet, estimated to be here by the end of February/beginning of March. I'll be sure to post up a review after I've gone through a few racks with it.

By the way, if you're thinking of ordering one -- even though I don't have mine yet -- I would definitely suggest Mr. Starkey, his prices are incredibly reasonable, all the reviews on his cues are positive and he's always a gentleman to deal with.
 
smashmouth said:
There are people here who believe that steel is bad in a joint.

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who's ever said ss "is bad" in a joint? you mean like, it's not good for the joint or it's not as good as,,,,or less preferable than.
 
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im actually considering buying a break cue with a wood joint for bout 60$ but was wondering what the pros and cons are and wil it fit in my case cuz of the longer joint? it looks very cool and i feel confident with it i do believe in no matter what equipment u have as long as ure comfy with it , i dont want to buy a 300$ cue i think a 60 $ can do just as well ..
 
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