pete lafond said:
Exactly what I was thinking, proper execution has to be f(x) of pocket/ facing shape and reading the bounce right, not english. having said that, it seems simple, a normal shot does not go in coz of english, you have to aim it in.
Trickshots in real matches ?
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Exactly what I was thinking, proper execution has to be f(x) of pocket/ facing shape and reading the bounce right, not english. having said that, it seems simple, a normal shot does not go in coz of english, you have to aim it in.
Koop said:
Yes I am. I'll see you there.
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Bruce S. de Lis
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Trick Shot MATCHES on TV, are BORING..... 
Methinks thou doth notBruce S. de Lis said:Trick Shot MATCHES on TV, are BORING.....
What some call tricks shots are just varaitions of shots over the years. By that I mean someone, some where in time made a shot a bit out of the usual. Could have happened by accident as well. Someone used that shot but added a little twist in a regular game or practice. Now there are a lot variations used because of the masses that play pool and of course by the trick shot artists.
As an example by 1965 or a bit earlier I had this shot.
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All I was doing was drawing to the side rail to come back over for shape on the 9. It so happens because of so much low right it hit the rail then with so much draw it come straight back rather than across the table one rail.
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That seemed like fun so I'd set up a line of balls to go inbetween then make a ball in the corner or just play position on a ball.
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I'd never seen anyone else do that before me. Many years later someone said Rempe shot that in an exibition. Ah, he stole it from me! LOL Years later along comes Massey and shoots this shot but as you all know puts up a blocker. Ok fine its still my invention. LOL Truth is Jimmy Moore most likely come with this shot first. As illustrated in Winning One Pocket. Where did he get it from -- well who knows but it very well could have been by accident in the first place.
At any rate trick shots (stroke shots) are variations of shots that have happened in the past and most likely happened by accident. After all when pool was in its infancy, who knew all these things were possible.
When I first watched trick shots on TV, there might have been one I hadn't seen or made but for the most part they were all old as the hills.
Rod
As an example by 1965 or a bit earlier I had this shot.
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All I was doing was drawing to the side rail to come back over for shape on the 9. It so happens because of so much low right it hit the rail then with so much draw it come straight back rather than across the table one rail.
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That seemed like fun so I'd set up a line of balls to go inbetween then make a ball in the corner or just play position on a ball.
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I'd never seen anyone else do that before me. Many years later someone said Rempe shot that in an exibition. Ah, he stole it from me! LOL Years later along comes Massey and shoots this shot but as you all know puts up a blocker. Ok fine its still my invention. LOL Truth is Jimmy Moore most likely come with this shot first. As illustrated in Winning One Pocket. Where did he get it from -- well who knows but it very well could have been by accident in the first place.
At any rate trick shots (stroke shots) are variations of shots that have happened in the past and most likely happened by accident. After all when pool was in its infancy, who knew all these things were possible.
When I first watched trick shots on TV, there might have been one I hadn't seen or made but for the most part they were all old as the hills.
Rod
Koop said:
Mike Webb will be set up doing cues. He will have a supply on hand to sell.
Another one which I faced a couple of months ago in a tournament. After the break, I had quite an easy looking 1-ball but I realized it was almost impossible to play a good position for the 2 with a regular stroke because of the blocking balls. With a level cue, I would have always drawn the rock into the 3-ball using a rake. And to have enough draw, I could've not cheated the pocket enough to let the 1-ball drop without rattling. And with follow I would have hit other balls as well.
So, I reached over to the shot from the long side, elevated about 75 degrees and shot a short masse draw with left english. Surprisingly little force is needed, it's more like a wrist snap action with the masse and you can easily draw a table length. The left english bends the cueball to stay near the long rail and I played nice position for the 2-ball. My opponents jaw dropped nicely as well.
Here's the shot with the rest of the balls omitted:
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So, I reached over to the shot from the long side, elevated about 75 degrees and shot a short masse draw with left english. Surprisingly little force is needed, it's more like a wrist snap action with the masse and you can easily draw a table length. The left english bends the cueball to stay near the long rail and I played nice position for the 2-ball. My opponents jaw dropped nicely as well.
Here's the shot with the rest of the balls omitted:
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