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tip shape/grooming has always been largely irrelevant, Snooker players have always known this,
Dr Dave's videos and analysis prove this

the holy grail day will arrive soon enough where we will all have perfectly shaped composite tips that do not require chalk or maintenance
 
Well if you can just throw an oversized tip on your cue piece and start playing then I don’t see a need a’tall for a tip guy.

They are not using oversized tips. The mushrooming is the combination of a soft tip and a narrow base I would guess. But since the mushroom diameter is still smaller than any pool cue tip, it doesn't hurt them. Some pool players use Revo 12.4 to play snooker. I tried it and it works well.

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I can't speak for snooker players, but I can say that I didn't give much thought to the condition of my tip. In fact, what usually happened to mine in short order was an inconsistent shape from one siding it. I think nearly all snooker cues I've seen have a notch in the butt. I used to index my cue based on that notch. It wasn't difficult to see the change in tip shape as you transistioned around the circumference.
 
They are not using oversized tips. The mushrooming is the combination of a soft tip and a narrow base I would guess.
In the installations I have seen wherein the end result is meant to end up like Trump's. The tip is oversized but tapered to the ferrule.

The tip diameter matters more than anything else to those with rock solid mechanics. Having it passively end up to the mushroomed diameter would take far too long.
 
So I'm watch Trump the other day and they gave a close up, how does he play with a tip like this. The guy is kind of a legend when it comes to English and moving the ball around the table. View attachment 632965
Definitely shows it is the archer and not the arrow that counts sometimes. Anyone else notice how badly his tip is mushroomed?
 
I commented in another thread a while back that was the way Efren's tip looked like the first time I saw him play. In fact, the whole cue didn't look much better.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
A lights out player can take a cue off the wall and beat everyone in the room.
 
It's interesting how what's important differs between snooker and pool players.

As mentioned in this thread, some snooker players play with old, bent cues - but it has to be the one specific cue they've always used.

So they're not less fastidious about their equipment, but they need to know one cue very well, instead of having very high-quality equipment.

This seems to be for a combination of confidence and very accurate knowledge of how a cue plays, I think because of the need for very high precision (small balls and pockets) when using English (and so a slightly curving cue ball path).

Supposedly the old billiards player Clark McConachy was never the same player after giving his cue away.

On the other hand, Stephen Hendry had a mini resurgence after his old cue got broken and he needed a new one. And some pool players benefit from a change of cues to freshen things up (I think that was in one of Jay's books).
 
It's interesting how what's important differs between snooker and pool players.

As mentioned in this thread, some snooker players play with old, bent cues - but it has to be the one specific cue they've always used.

So they're not less fastidious about their equipment, but they need to know one cue very well, instead of having very high-quality equipment.

This seems to be for a combination of confidence and very accurate knowledge of how a cue plays, I think because of the need for very high precision (small balls and pockets) when using English (and so a slightly curving cue ball path).

Supposedly the old billiards player Clark McConachy was never the same player after giving his cue away.

On the other hand, Stephen Hendry had a mini resurgence after his old cue got broken and he needed a new one. And some pool players benefit from a change of cues to freshen things up (I think that was in one of Jay's books).
I think the whole thing about snooker players not being able to return to their prior standard after losing a cue was simply a superstition and a self-fulfilling prophecy. In recent years, it’s not uncommon for top players to switch cues and not miss a step.
 
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I think the whole thing about snooker players not being able to return to their prior standard after losing a cue was simply a superstition and a self-fulfilling prophecy. In recent years, it’s not uncommon for top players to switch cues and not miss a step.
Anyone in particular?
 
Anyone in particular?
Ronnie has used different cues. I think he famously gave his cue away after a loss., Neil Robertson has switched things up in the past. John Higgins switched things up as recently as 2019 and is claiming to be playing the best snooker of his life. I did a quick check and Judd Trump switched things up in 2016.
 
Ronnie has used different cues. I think he famously gave his cue away after a loss., Neil Robertson has switched things up in the past. John Higgins switched things up as recently as 2019 and is claiming to be playing the best snooker of his life. I did a quick check and Judd Trump switched things up in 2016.

Mark Allen & Stephen Maguire too in recent seasons (pretty sure Mark Allen has gone through about 3 in as many seasons).
 
On the other hand, Stephen Hendry had a mini resurgence after his old cue got broken and he needed a new one. And some pool players benefit from a change of cues to freshen things up (I think that was in one of Jay's books).

did he even win any major after his cue broke?
 
Well if you can just throw an oversized tip on your cue piece and start playing then I don’t see a need a’tall for a tip guy.

I don’t have a lathe or the space. No one does tips close to me that I’ve found so far. Maybe the answer is a snooker cue or something around like 12mm and I can just buy 13mm tips and slap them on as centered as possible and start shooting. Yes.
Those tips were not necessarily that much oversized they probably mushroomed
 
True I’ve just never seen a tip mushroom like that, to where it’s almost folded backwards. Maybe they’re softer than what I’ve been using.

I really want to try out a cue like that for some reason.
 
This article is quite interesting (it mentions Hendry amongst others), all about players and their cues: https://wst.tv/the-cue-for-success/
From the article:

Canadian Alain Robidoux reached the semi-finals here in Sheffield in 1997, however his game was subsequently left in tatters when his cue was snapped into several pieces. He had it sent for repairs, but when the cue maker noticed a sponsor’s logo had been fixed to it, he took offence and set about it like firewood. The following season, Robidoux failed to win a single match.

[For clarity, the cue was in for minor repairs, and the cuemaker snapped it. I heard the logo was on the cue case, not the cue itself, for a cheap-end equipment manufacturer.]


[According to Shaun Murphy:]
“When you go to places like Shanghai, where the humidity is high, the white doesn’t deflect as much around the table. The cue can make the difference. My coach Chris Henry and I actually contemplated the idea of walking out into the arena for the Shanghai Masters with three different cues. One standard cue, one for higher deflection and one for lower deflection. I’d start off with the standard one and go up or down depending on what was required. It is just getting over the stigma that you play with one cue and that is it. Until it works, everyone thinks you are completely off your head.

“I’d never rule out doing it because I think it is the future. We are a good way behind in snooker as far as technology is concerned. I believe in 50 years everyone will look back on us and think we were relics. You take one cue everywhere and expect it to perform the same. Roger Federer doesn’t use the same string tension wherever he goes. However, if a player came out with five different cues at a major snooker event you would think he had lost the plot.”

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The effect of humidity level on CB deflection is new to me. Sometimes I wonder how anyone makes a ball with English!
 
Damn I would be so pissed if someone snapped my cue instead of repairing it 😂 that’s crazy.

I’ve heard snooker commentators talking about how some players were never the same after losing a cue. I don’t remember who but someone had a cue stolen and their game never recovered
 
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However, if a player came out with five different cues at a major snooker event you would think he had lost the plot.”

Haha... this reminds me of a semi-local player that would use a golf bag for his cues... multiple playing cues, multiple break cues, multiple jumpers, even multiple rests! Ok, player actually, but a little off mentally.
 
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I’ve heard snooker commentators talking about how some players were never the same after losing a cue. I don’t remember who but someone had a cue stolen and their game never recovered
That seemed to end Robidoux's time at the top too. Very sad to see someone's who career destroyed by it.
 
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