TS Cue - Price Check, Aisle 5 !!!

mikemosconi said:
That is a matter of personal choice- of course a cue owned and played by a great player, or a vintage cue from a very respected maker, if in great original condition commands the higher price and would be " spoiled" by a refinish. Same goes with many types of antique/ vintage higher end items.
However, lots of buyers, like me, when looking at vintage cues, don't necessarily want a cue with a worn finish, frayed wrap, stained ferrules, etc. I happen to like most of my cues to look newer in every way, even with cue playability being high the the forefront of my reason to buy/collect cues.
This TS, a four pointer, no inlays, no veneers, probably plays great, and if I were looking, I would view the Proficient refinish as a plus, and something that I would have done myself if I acquired the cue in less than excellent condition. My views on refinish aside; not everyone buys/ collects cues with resale at top of mind- I would buy a cue; if the price is within reason, because I like it for various reasons, and if I want it to look a certain way, not worried about someone who might not agree with my decision- I'm not alone on this as far as cues go.
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Agreed, sir.

The cue was...and still is...solid.

The tips were old, the finish was a bit cloudy and scraped...and the old leather wrap was kinda gross.

It is now back to as-new shape, with no adverse impact to what it was, before the refinish.

Jesus didn't play 8-ball with it...so in my mind, I returned it to its original glory.

And if anyone could be trusted to do it right...it would be Scot.
 
For the sake of argument, let's assume that refinishing a collectible cue can impair its value. How bad could it be? I've watched Antiques Roadshow appraisals on old furniture that just make me want to cry. Any ideas?

I think that cues having "utility" value in some way creates a floor, as in "Ok if y'all don't want to put it on display in a glass box, I'll buy it and play with it."
 
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bbb said:
i think that was the ball park price a few years ago
ICBW
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True and alot of these guys toss out high prices because they are cue resellers .... I would choose a simple 4 point and veneer sneaky Pete over many if not all of these "fancy" cues almost every time ... Excluding 360s
 
8-ball Rat said:
Generally speaking....custom knives aren't that different from custom cues. Serious collectors/hobbyists drive the market...and sky's the limit when it comes to values.

Yes....the knife I'm after is exceptional, and very, very rare.

Thx.
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Thanks for the info. I had no idea knives were so collectable. Don't get out much anymore. Lol.
Seriously tho, the ones w that have that wavy, folded steel in them are some of my faves. Damascus, or something like that??
 
Mensabum said:
Thanks for the info. I had no idea knives were so collectable. Don't get out much anymore. Lol.
Seriously tho, the ones w that have that wavy, folded steel in them are some of my faves. Damascus, or something like that??
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Btw... GL getting that knife!! I hope you're able to.
 
I bought a knife at a gun show in SF for under $150 in 1979. It was nothing spectacular but it just felt amazing.
The balance and feel of the handle is so comfortable in your hand it feels like it was meant to be held and used.

Four years ago I sent my knife to a prominent blade dealer that was recommended as the best source to refinish
the knife. They told me it was actually a valuable knife & it’s from when the knife maker was beginning his career.

They weren’t certain how much to insure the knife for when they returned it after refinishing. I was startled they did
not charge me anything and said they’d refinish the blade for free as long as I owned it. They used $1500 insurance.

The same thing has happened with 3 S&W handguns I purchased in 1978. All three are now much much higher in
value. I know why after visiting the gun show this past weekend. Current prices dictate mine are worth a lot more.

But there was also the difference in manufacture quality. All three guns were made in 1978 and that was a very good
period for S& W handguns. So I got lucky again & ironically, I purchased these 3 guns at the same show as the knife.

Coincidentally, I’ve been fortunate with my pool cues. I scored my TS cue for $2500 and it is worth a whole lot more
than that. You don’t see many flat joint radial pin TS cues around, let alone any for sale. So what’s it all amount to?

Life is a crap shoot. I have been lucky but there is one thing to remember. it kind of applies to pool as well. When you
buy a high quality made product, it usually is a smart decision in the long run. So do your homework before you buy.

In pool, doing the homework really does help you in the long run. And the more you practice, well, the luckier you get.
Of course, luck isn’t a variable but we like to think it is. So here’s a question to ponder because luck goes both ways.

In 9 ball, your opponent hangs the 9. His bad luck or your good luck? Next game you slop the 9 in after badly missing
the 4 ball. Your good luck or his bad luck? You try a Z bank & jaw the OB in front of the SP. His good or your bad luck?

If you believe in luck, just remember that luck is fickle & isn’t loyal to anyone. It bites you in the ass unexpectedly too.
 
Bavafongoul said:
I bought a knife at a gun show in SF for under $150 in 1979. It was nothing spectacular but it just felt amazing.
The balance and feel of the handle is so comfortable in your hand it feels like it was meant to be held and used.

Four years ago I sent my knife to a prominent blade dealer that was recommended as the best source to refinish
the knife. They told me it was actually a valuable knife & it’s from when the knife maker was beginning his career.

They weren’t certain how much to insure the knife for when they returned it after refinishing. I was startled they did
not charge me anything and said they’d refinish the blade for free as long as I owned it. They used $1500 insurance.

The same thing has happened with 3 S&W handguns I purchased in 1978. All three are now much much higher in
value. I know why after visiting the gun show this past weekend. Current prices dictate mine are worth a lot more.

But there was also the difference in manufacture quality. All three guns were made in 1978 and that was a very good
period for S& W handguns. So I got lucky again & ironically, I purchased these 3 guns at the same show as the knife.

Coincidentally, I’ve been fortunate with my pool cues. I scored my TS cue for $2500 and it is worth a whole lot more
than that. You don’t see many flat joint radial pin TS cues around, let alone any for sale. So what’s it all amount to?

Life is a crap shoot. I have been lucky but there is one thing to remember. it kind of applies to pool as well. When you
buy a high quality made product, it usually is a smart decision in the long run. So do your homework before you buy.

In pool, doing the homework really does help you in the long run. And the more you practice, well, the luckier you get.
Of course, luck isn’t a variable but we like to think it is. So here’s a question to ponder because luck goes both ways.

In 9 ball, your opponent hangs the 9. His bad luck or your good luck? Next game you slop the 9 in after badly missing
the 4 ball. Your good luck or his bad luck? You try a Z bank & jaw the OB in front of the SP. His good or your bad luck?

If you believe in luck, just remember that luck is fickle & isn’t loyal to anyone. It bites you in the ass unexpectedly too.
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Very well said my friend!! Kudos to your purchases. Good advice for anyone. Thanks!!👍🏻
 
My problem is....I have too many interests.

Pool
Comic books
Knives
Guitars
Snakes

All compete for top priority. Unless I hit the right Powerball numbers...I'll always sacrifice in one area to make gains in another.

1st world problems....
 
Mensabum said:
Thanks for the info. I had no idea knives were so collectable. Don't get out much anymore. Lol.
Seriously tho, the ones w that have that wavy, folded steel in them are some of my faves. Damascus, or something like that??
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When you get into the business of being a "picker"- even as a hobby/business, you quickly find out that almost every classification of items on earth has a collectable category- from cues, to watches, to dolls, all the way down to old beer cans, match books, etc. etc.

E bay was born out of the widespread collectability category of everything imaginable- it was not born out of the sale of new goods to market.

One man's trash is another man's treasure holds true today and always will be as long as there is an economy of purchase and trade.
 
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