Turning laminated shaft

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I have been under the impression that all shafts need to sit between turns. Recently, I had a conversation with a cue maker and he told me that 314 shafts could be turned right down to its final dimension in one turn because of the lamination.

I believe his point is that the glue between the lamination helps to keep the wood stable and straight.

I think the shaft is under more internal stress due to the lamination. I also think a variation of woods from different sourses make it more difficult to reduce warpage.

My questions:

1) Does anyone know if Predator let their blanks rest between turns?

2) Does anyone believe that lamination helps the shaft to stay straight? Why?

3) Does anyone believe that lamination eliminate the need to rest the blanks between turns? Why?

4) What is the percentage of wrapage among blank/shaft delivered from Predator to cue makers?

Thank you.

Richard
 
nipponbilliards said:
I have been under the impression that all shafts need to sit between turns. Recently, I had a conversation with a cue maker and he told me that 314 shafts could be turned right down to its final dimension in one turn because of the lamination.

I believe his point is that the glue between the lamination helps to keep the wood stable and straight.

I think the shaft is under more internal stress due to the lamination. I also think a variation of woods from different sourses make it more difficult to reduce warpage.

My questions:

1) Does anyone know if Predator let their blanks rest between turns?

2) Does anyone believe that lamination helps the shaft to stay straight? Why?

3) Does anyone believe that lamination eliminate the need to rest the blanks between turns? Why?

4) What is the percentage of wrapage among blank/shaft delivered from Predator to cue makers?

Thank you.

Richard
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The blanks that you get from Predator are finished with a tip and ferrule. The only thing needed to be done is finish the joint. I can't speak for Predator on their tapering process but the laminated shafts I turn in my shop, I do not taper them them to finish size in one day. They can be turned faster than a regular maple shaft but they still need to rest between turns.
 
Thank you Full Splice and Sheldon.

I am thinking about the turning of the blank before the ferrule was installed, i.e., the turning of the blank in the predator factory. I am sorry about the lack of clarity in my post.

I asked the questions because some of the predator shafts that I have received do not seem to be straight at all, and I doubt the turning process has a lot to do with it.

However, one cue maker I spoke to believe that predator can just turn their shafts to their final size and the lamination should hold them straight.

Although I do not believe that to be true, I am interested to hear more opinion from other cue makers on this subject.

I am also interested in knowing what other cue makers think of the percentage of wrapage of the predator balnck from predator, and if anyone knows how the blanks are turned in the predator production plant and cares to kindly share it here with us, that would be greatly appreciated.

One interesting point being bought up is the stability of the flat laminated shaft in the link Sheldon provided. I have yet had any problem with the flat laminated shafts I have used and/or come across, but I think I should be more careful regarding the shaft sealant after reading the link. Some people like to use magic eraser on their flat laminated shafts--perhaps they should pay more attention to making sure that they re-apply shaft sealant to their shafts if the sealant would make such a big difference.

Thank you very much for all the help.

Richard
 
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