TV - Alert - Real Sports this week and the troubles of Golf

[fastone371]

Yeah, it seems like it might be tough to make video gaming a spectator sport. It really bugs me that so many people cant do anything if they do not have their phone with them. "Oh crap, I cant find my phone, the world is coming to an end!"

 

[trob]

SVB is a dominate player and he even has a handicap that could be used to get him main stream attention. Why is he not some kind of spokesperson for hearing aids or something that can make him a buck as well as bring some attention to the sport.

I just saw Tony Hawk playing himself in a movie and he is just a skateboarder. Except for Miz, when was the last time you saw a name pool player doing a commercial or in a movie? I mean besides the cameos in pool based movies like COM.

He's just a skate boarder but people who don't skate board know who he is. People outside of pool have know idea who Any pool player is except willie and fats lol skate boarding has the X games we got the Mosconi cup. Again nobody heard of it. I won't even go into golf and it's majors and that you can play on high school teams and earn scholarships.

 

[macguy]

He's just a skate boarder but people who don't skate board know who he is. People outside of pool have know idea who Any pool player is except willie and fats lol skate boarding has the X games we got the Mosconi cup. Again nobody heard of it. I won't even go into golf and it's majors and that you can play on high school teams and earn scholarships.

So what, you don't wait for things to happen you make them happen. SVB if he doesn't already have one needs an agent. There is no way he can't gain some attention due to his handicap. I could easily see him on GMA or the Letterman show. His pool playing and handicap are such a powerful hooks he can go from unknown to well known very quickly.

I remember when Ewa Mataya went from unknown to for several years gracing mag covers and hundreds of news articles and TV appearances. By the way, she was not even the best player at the time. Her hook was her looks as with Jeanette Lee and they play it for what it is worth.

Miz was in his office on the phone making deals everyday. Yea he got a little lucky with the Miller Lite thing, but he took it and made something much more out of it.

I guarantee if one of the other players who were up for the Miller thing had got it, they would have made a quick buck that they would have blown and that would have been that.

You get out of life what you work for along with a little luck. And even with the luck it is what you do with that luck that makes the difference as well. Pool players are often whiners sitting around waiting for a hand out.

Then you have people like Tommy Kennedy, Pat Fleming, the late Miz, or any number of player/room owners who have made a nice little living out of what they love.

 

[bwally]

I used to work for a major golf club equipment company. We used to see alot of the counterfits come in for repair. Many customers were not very happy when we would tell them we could not fix the club because it was a counterfit. After a few it became very easy to see the fake ones but to the guy on the street it could be difficult. Moral of the story..."If it seems too good to be true, it probably is".

Side note for you golf fans. I saw another show about knockoffs. Imitation clubs. Think made in China or Japan. Watch what you buy online. Some look so good the manufacturer can't tell them apart until the cut them open.

 

[sixpack]

So what, you don't wait for things to happen you make them happen. SVB if he doesn't already have one needs an agent. There is no way he can't gain some attention due to his handicap. I could easily see him on GMA or the Letterman show. His pool playing and handicap are such a powerful hooks he can go from unknown to well known very quickly.

I remember when Ewa Mataya went from unknown to for several years gracing mag covers and hundreds of news articles and TV appearances. By the way, she was not even the best player at the time. Her hook was her looks as with Jeanette Lee and they play it for what it is worth.

Miz was in his office on the phone making deals everyday. Yea he got a little lucky with the Miller Lite thing, but he took it and made something much more out of it.

I guarantee if one of the other players who were up for the Miller thing had got it, they would have made a quick buck that they would have blown and that would have been that.

You get out of life what you work for along with a little luck. And even with the luck it is what you do with that luck that makes the difference as well. Pool players are often whiners sitting around waiting for a hand out.

Then you have people like Tommy Kennedy, Pat Fleming, the late Miz, or any number of player/room owners who have made a nice little living out of what they love.

Making the calls is a big part of it. I was recently talking to a guy I know who is a photographer for major corporate ad campaigns. His success has come relatively recently. He said that he was broke and he just started getting on the phone to anybody he could think of to see if they needed commercial photography. And it took a while but eventually he got a few things and then was able to get more. Now that he's successful he STILL starts every work day with an hour on the phone calling people to see if they need his services.

If a major pool player/star was able to either make the calls or get an agent who would actually make the calls it would take a while but they would get there.

In this day and age a 2-3 minute video that went viral would make up ground very quickly.

What would be fun is doing a 2-3 minute promo video for Shane that is humorous and plays on his disability. Like him shooting pool and making crazy shots while all sorts of chaos is going on behind him. Roman armies fighting mongolian hordes, Elephants trumpeting in circus rings, etc...

 

[itsfroze]

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[trob]

Pool was a little different when the miz and eva were making bank. Number 1 there were actually tournaments paying good cash because pool had sponsors. Remember camel was dumping money into pool. Pool isn't on tv. Thats a hell of an agent who can get someone to believe that a current pool player no one heard of playing a game less and less play can get you to wear drink or eat something they promote.

So what, you don't wait for things to happen you make them happen. SVB if he doesn't already have one needs an agent. There is no way he can't gain some attention due to his handicap. I could easily see him on GMA or the Letterman show. His pool playing and handicap are such a powerful hooks he can go from unknown to well known very quickly.

I remember when Ewa Mataya went from unknown to for several years gracing mag covers and hundreds of news articles and TV appearances. By the way, she was not even the best player at the time. Her hook was her looks as with Jeanette Lee and they play it for what it is worth.

Miz was in his office on the phone making deals everyday. Yea he got a little lucky with the Miller Lite thing, but he took it and made something much more out of it.

I guarantee if one of the other players who were up for the Miller thing had got it, they would have made a quick buck that they would have blown and that would have been that.

You get out of life what you work for along with a little luck. And even with the luck it is what you do with that luck that makes the difference as well. Pool players are often whiners sitting around waiting for a hand out.

Then you have people like Tommy Kennedy, Pat Fleming, the late Miz, or any number of player/room owners who have made a nice little living out of what they love.

 

[macguy]

Pool was a little different when the miz and eva were making bank. Number 1 there were actually tournaments paying good cash because pool had sponsors. Remember camel was dumping money into pool. Pool isn't on tv. Thats a hell of an agent who can get someone to believe that a current pool player no one heard of playing a game less and less play can get you to wear drink or eat something they promote.

Miz made his last almost till the day he died. It had nothing to do with pool on TV which it wasn't anyway. The Camel tour was nothing that no one outside of the sub culture of pool ever heard of.

Miz used to do exhibitions at conventions and shows that had nothing to do with pool such as auto show or home shows. I saw him doing an exhibition at a boat show.

When he would perform everyone in the place was at that booth. He proved his worth and worked hard and doing so. The rest of the pool players that were jelious of him had no idea how hard he worked or how he made all of it happen.

If anything people/ losers can always find a reason or excuse to fail.
Looking beyond that is the secret. Imagine what it takes to be an actor knowing the probability they may fail. For many it is just easier to not even try.

When Miz got the beer commercial, no one knew who he was outside of pool. Someone just got the bright idea that the visuals of what can be done on a pool table would get the attention of an audience. Those fascinating visuals are still there and for a few seconds will still capture the public's attention if a creative ad agent pitched it to any number of companies.

If you notice in the beginning of the Miz beer commercial it doesn't say 4 time US open champion it just says "Famous pool player" and the audience has to take their word for it since no one had any idea who he was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tYL2Btxmjg

 

[macguy]

When I first saw the show it was just background noise as I was doing something else. I just re-watched it on demand. The gist is, they went nuts, over valued their product, over built golf courses that were not even needed when they were being built.

The Jack Nicklaus interview is really telling. He is upset because he is not building 30 courses at the same time any more making millions off suckers who invested in the needless courses.

Now he is whining. Screw him. He reminds me of the bankers who made a ton of money off the fake real estate boom then the bubble burst. I am sure many inside the golf industry saw this coming and knew it was a joke when it was happening.

In fact many of those golf courses were golf communities where they were building homes right on the golf courses and the real-estate collapse probably is directly tied to much of what happened with courses going broke. Golf will just fall back to a level where it belongs in the first place.

 

[sixpack]

When I first saw the show it was just background noise as I was doing something else. I just re-watched it on demand. The gist is, they went nuts, over valued their product, over built golf courses that were not even needed when they were being built.

The Jack Nicklaus interview is really telling. He is upset because he is not building 30 courses at the same time any more making millions off suckers who invested in the needless courses.

Now he is whining. Screw him. He reminds me of the bankers who made a ton of money off the fake real estate boom then the bubble burst. I am sure many inside the golf industry saw this coming and knew it was a joke when it was happening.

In fact many of those golf courses were golf communities where they were building homes right on the golf courses and the real-estate collapse probably is directly tied to much of what happened with courses going broke. Golf will just fall back to a level where it belongs in the first place.

I agree with this. Honestly I'd rather play golf than watch it. And it's nice to be able to get a tee time almost any time for a reasonable price. And it's also nice to be able to buy a formerly $400 driver for $99. Right now I can play twilight (after 5 plenty of time to play 18) with a cart for $15. If I played pool for that time it would cost me $25 in table time here.

 

[vasilios]

You can enter the US Open for 175 bucks - If you beat everybody they will hand you a trophy and a fat check and say see you next year. Golf ain't going away ?

You don't have to be anything but yourself and play good.
Pretty simple avenue to be recognized world wide. Takes work and dedication.
If you look around you can see the future poolers and golfers everywhere dedicated to their I pad in one hand and a play station in the other crying things are tough.



bill

 

[chevybob20]

It looks to me like the sport of golf isn't in trouble. What's in trouble is the Golf courses with the neighborhoods built around them. Too many were built. Banks were throwing money at anyone with at least one tooth and a McJob so anyone could afford to live upscale. All those thousand dollar-aires (People who live live like Trump on a thousand dollar budget) are broke, in debt and in bankruptcy and have now started living within their means.

I stopped playing golf because of the noob influx. They had no respect for the etiquette of the game. I resigned my club membership because the course refused to use marshals.

On my last day at the club, I was playing on a week day, by myself, behind a foursome. By hole 2, I started timing them. It took a foursome twenty minutes to putt once all four balls were on the putting surface. I waited for an opportune time to skip a few holes and go around since they wouldn't let me play through. When I did, they started yelling at me from one hundred yards away, asking me if I thought that I was special. I went to the car and wrote my resignation. I haven't hit a ball since. I took up pool instead.

In case you want to know, I hit in the 70's on most courses. I'm the worst in my family. My 84 year old dad (As of today) still hits in the seventies. I'm no pro, but I'm not a hack either.

To attract people with money back into the game of pool, etiquette has to return to the game. Dress decently and be respectful of those around you.