Unknown cue identification? Any help appreciated.

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It's been many years since I have posted on AZ so please if this is not allowed or wrong forum I apologize.

I'm looking at this cue. 5-16x18 pin. Very vibrant forearm. 4pt Please see pics and lmk what you think it could be. Old cue.
 

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When I first saw the fat red veneers I thought Karl Mayer. But none of the rest of it looks right for his standard work.

Maybe the bump will get something.
 
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Huebler did do some wide/double veneers. Hard to tell from the picture but the pin install doesn’t look real clean.
Here’s a Huebler with the wide veneers.
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It's been many years since I have posted on AZ so please if this is not allowed or wrong forum I apologize.

I'm looking at this cue. 5-16x18 pin. Very vibrant forearm. 4pt Please see pics and lmk what you think it could be. Old cue.
Is that a brass insert I see in the shaft?? Also look at the tight grain in the butt at the joint. Somebody picked a damn nice old growth chunk for that one. I'll buy it if it's for sale.
I was thinking Heubler as well, until I saw that brass. Now I'm scratching whatever else I got that's itchin'.
 
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