DougT said:
I agree Doug.
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I agree Doug.
Snapshot9 said:
that sounds like a great idea. want to play some? I'm a beginner and I need a lot of spot. I think jjinfla said something about getting orange crush if I get beat with last 4. Want to try a few sets of last 4 for $20? If you beat me a couple straight sets, we should adjust to orange crush like he said right? Don't let me have that spot cheap though. I should have to bet more to get a spot like that.
I tend to agree.
About twelve years ago I would average breaking and running about three racks before I would miss. All I did was play pool for a living. I was a day time manager of a pool hall and played probably 12-15 hours a day 6 days a week. We held two tournaments a week at the pool hall, one nineball on tuesays and one eightball on Sundays. I woulkd go around to all of the local tournaments and held my own for a long time.
I also played for money. I only made $5 a hr running the pool hall,(believe it or not), but I made a pretty decent living for a nineteen year old punk from shooting in the various tournaments, gambling and refurbishing pool tables. I had a Fiance at the time who turned out to be a psycho hose beast and she really played with my head. It threw my game way off.
In fact if any of you guys know Eric Nieme, he was the one who replaced me when I quit working there. (It;s since gone out of business after being sold for some poor business decisions after it was sold.)
My head was messed up BAD, I could still run three racks straight, but put some money on the line and it was over. I would play at whatever the level of the guy I was playing and I might as well have tossed a coin as played pool for the money. At first it only affected my money game and I was still alright playing in tournaments, but then it started affecting my tournament play too. It got to the point where I pretty much gave up pool for about seven years.
I would still play people on occasion and they would say "Hey, why did you stop playing if you can shoot like that?" And I could only reply, put some money on the line and see what happens!
It was soo bad that when I moved down to orange in CAli and started playing again people thought I was playing the long hustle. Cause when I would play against someone for like a set for 20 and lose and then quit and then shoot around for fun afterward and run out they couldn't believe it.
It would really piss me off to play in the tournaments at Danny K's and play Vincent I guess he started going by Ramin now and know that I could play at his level but not be able to do it in the tournaments and definitely not be able to play for any money.
I remember one night the tournament director there was watching a bunch of us play hickey pool and I had a shot from all the way down table at a ball in the corner and I shot it dead pocket with draw and drew it all the way back down table and it sat against the rail and he said "If I had a stroke like that I'd frame it." I then went on to place a respectful dead last in the tournament. Well maybe not dead last but pretty damn close. (actually, Ramin was onyl a 2A at the time and I had just played a 4A and beat him, now I guess Ramin is like a 12A or something)I've since gotten over a lot of that problem but it hasn't been easy. It has helped that I've since gotten married to a wonderful girl who is nowwhere near a psycho hose beast and we just had a beautiful daughter. I played in a tournament down at danny k's about a year and a half ago or so and placed second rated as a 2A that might have been a little low of a rating for me but unfortunately, I didn't get to play Ramin he got beat out by the guy I beat to go to the finals.
However, even just a couple of years ago, I was playing in the Swanee memorial and I had gotten the best draw you could possibly get. I had to play Shane Manoale and a bunch of B players to get to the finals. Shane isn't easy, but I've beaten him before. I thought I had it made until I got knocked out double style. you want to know how? I missed nine-nineballs. That's right I lost 9-6 and I broke and ran out every single rack but missed nine nineballs.
some of them I even missed more than once. I lost to a B player that only had to make nine shots for the match.
Do you have any idea how bad that sucks, and what kind of a mindset it puts you in for the loser bracket match?
Anyways enough of my ranting the point is it doesn't matter how you play when you just play if you can't do it when you need to, then hardly no one will know how good you can really play and try to get top players to just play play with you to showcase how good you are. I've tried, it hardly ever works.
About twelve years ago I would average breaking and running about three racks before I would miss. All I did was play pool for a living. I was a day time manager of a pool hall and played probably 12-15 hours a day 6 days a week. We held two tournaments a week at the pool hall, one nineball on tuesays and one eightball on Sundays. I woulkd go around to all of the local tournaments and held my own for a long time.
I also played for money. I only made $5 a hr running the pool hall,(believe it or not), but I made a pretty decent living for a nineteen year old punk from shooting in the various tournaments, gambling and refurbishing pool tables. I had a Fiance at the time who turned out to be a psycho hose beast and she really played with my head. It threw my game way off.
In fact if any of you guys know Eric Nieme, he was the one who replaced me when I quit working there. (It;s since gone out of business after being sold for some poor business decisions after it was sold.)
My head was messed up BAD, I could still run three racks straight, but put some money on the line and it was over. I would play at whatever the level of the guy I was playing and I might as well have tossed a coin as played pool for the money. At first it only affected my money game and I was still alright playing in tournaments, but then it started affecting my tournament play too. It got to the point where I pretty much gave up pool for about seven years.
I would still play people on occasion and they would say "Hey, why did you stop playing if you can shoot like that?" And I could only reply, put some money on the line and see what happens!
It was soo bad that when I moved down to orange in CAli and started playing again people thought I was playing the long hustle. Cause when I would play against someone for like a set for 20 and lose and then quit and then shoot around for fun afterward and run out they couldn't believe it.
It would really piss me off to play in the tournaments at Danny K's and play Vincent I guess he started going by Ramin now and know that I could play at his level but not be able to do it in the tournaments and definitely not be able to play for any money.
I remember one night the tournament director there was watching a bunch of us play hickey pool and I had a shot from all the way down table at a ball in the corner and I shot it dead pocket with draw and drew it all the way back down table and it sat against the rail and he said "If I had a stroke like that I'd frame it." I then went on to place a respectful dead last in the tournament. Well maybe not dead last but pretty damn close. (actually, Ramin was onyl a 2A at the time and I had just played a 4A and beat him, now I guess Ramin is like a 12A or something)I've since gotten over a lot of that problem but it hasn't been easy. It has helped that I've since gotten married to a wonderful girl who is nowwhere near a psycho hose beast and we just had a beautiful daughter. I played in a tournament down at danny k's about a year and a half ago or so and placed second rated as a 2A that might have been a little low of a rating for me but unfortunately, I didn't get to play Ramin he got beat out by the guy I beat to go to the finals.
However, even just a couple of years ago, I was playing in the Swanee memorial and I had gotten the best draw you could possibly get. I had to play Shane Manoale and a bunch of B players to get to the finals. Shane isn't easy, but I've beaten him before. I thought I had it made until I got knocked out double style. you want to know how? I missed nine-nineballs. That's right I lost 9-6 and I broke and ran out every single rack but missed nine nineballs.
some of them I even missed more than once. I lost to a B player that only had to make nine shots for the match.
Do you have any idea how bad that sucks, and what kind of a mindset it puts you in for the loser bracket match?
Anyways enough of my ranting the point is it doesn't matter how you play when you just play if you can't do it when you need to, then hardly no one will know how good you can really play and try to get top players to just play play with you to showcase how good you are. I've tried, it hardly ever works.
This is what a friend came up with for me. You must start where the cue ball is at... run the rack, shooting roatation in the pocket noted.. if you can "run" this consistantly youve got game... you cannot shoot any balls in any other pocket and you cannot bump into any other balls, cue ball control, and shot making... That is the key... If you miss, you start over...
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