Video I took of SVB stroke

His arm is very slightly past 90 degrees when he strikes the cue ball, and he also shifts his bridge arm slightly in the direction of whatever english he's applying to the shot. The arm shift, imo, is probably some form of squirt compensation, and/or helps him keep his body/head absolutely frozen at the moment of impact.

At least that's what I've observed watching Shane play.
 
buddha162 said:
His arm is very slightly past 90 degrees when he strikes the cue ball, and he also shifts his bridge arm slightly in the direction of whatever english he's applying to the shot. The arm shift, imo, is probably some form of squirt compensation, and/or helps him keep his body/head absolutely frozen at the moment of impact.

At least that's what I've observed watching Shane play.
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Very good observation! I've never noticed the little shift in his bridge-arm...I think you must be right, it's probably adjusting to counterbalance to keep his stroke straight and his head still...but who can say? I've always put Shane's stroke in the category as one of the straightest, most centered least extraneous movement ones out there...
 
West Point 1987 said:
Very good observation! I've never noticed the little shift in his bridge-arm...I think you must be right, it's probably adjusting to counterbalance to keep his stroke straight and his head still...but who can say? I've always put Shane's stroke in the category as one of the straightest, most centered least extraneous movement ones out there...
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It's deceptive how much he actually moves on the shot. I watched some more, and I think I see him moving his right arm as well. I suspect he's applying BHE across the ball as he pulls the trigger, on the last stroke, but he slows it down and has a mechanical approach to the movement so it's highly repeatable. You can actually see his entire upper body shift left or right depending on the english, but at the moment of impact his body is completely still.

He also has a very long bridge. Someone using BHE the same way with a shorter bridge might have significantly less movement.

Thank you OP for the great close-ups!
 
buddha162 said:
It's deceptive how much he actually moves on the shot. I watched some more, and I think I see him moving his right arm as well. I suspect he's applying BHE across the ball as he pulls the trigger, on the last stroke, but he slows it down and has a mechanical approach to the movement so it's highly repeatable. You can actually see his entire upper body shift left or right depending on the english, but at the moment of impact his body is completely still.

He also has a very long bridge. Someone using BHE the same way with a shorter bridge might have significantly less movement.

Thank you OP for the great close-ups!
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Yeah, you're right, it's very small movement...since SVB likes to anchor is tip at the ball's contact point on the cloth and apply the english on execution, I'd agree with you...except I can't see any spin in the shots chosen for this video. They all appear to be dead center or stun, yet the tiny shift is still there.
 
West Point 1987 said:
Yeah, you're right, it's very small movement...since SVB likes to anchor is tip at the ball's contact point on the cloth and apply the english on execution, I'd agree with you...except I can't see any spin in the shots chosen for this video. They all appear to be dead center or stun, yet the tiny shift is still there.
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You're right, it's puzzling if the movement occurs even on center ball. I can only speculate that perhaps the body shift is so ingrained that on center ball shots he actually addresses the CB slightly to the right or left of center, and then pivots to center upon impact. Sounds a bit nuts to me but that's what I'm seeing...
 
Realizm said:
Shane changed his stroke ..... It's alot losser....
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He changed it after he went to the PI. The Pinoys prolly showed him something. Earl's stroke changed a little, too after he went over there a year or so ago.

I posted on this stroke the Pinoys use and was told I was hallucinating. :smile: I don't think so, but maybe I was. I guess it didn't fit into the nice, tight little package of AZB knowledge.

Best,
Mike
 

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On the last draw stroke, it looked like he snapped his wrist to get a little more follow through.
 
Mikjary said:
Look closer at the actual movement. A "wrist snap" is just part of the stroke.

Best,
Mike
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I haven't studied SVB's stroke, but to me his wrist action on that shot doesn't look like something he'd do on every shot. I don't know what that means, if anything...

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It's the Pinoy style of closing the hand quickly with a more or less locked wrist. Less moving parts and all that. He started using it more often when he returned from his trip over there.

Best,
Mike
 
I had observed that Shane's right elbow is off plane, like many shooters. What I noticed on this video is he actually realigns his elbow to on-plane as he prepares for his final stroke. Amazing. I have never seen a player move his elbow that direction. Mostly, it goes the other way.
 
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